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Troll Science

Cleaning out my /b/ folder, not checking for reposts.

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by Bono

submitted May 11th 2012

66 comments
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Troll Science
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<- none of the downvoters can solve it.
5 years ago
this isn't 4chan. fuck off.
5 years ago
^ can't solve it
5 years ago
Nothing to solve here, just an incorrect statement.
5 years ago
Yeah, the first statement is incorrect, or rather incomplete.
5 years ago
Its shows that .99999% rounds to 1. 1/3 x 3= 1 or (the decimal equivlent).333 x 3= .999 rounded to the nearest whole is 1. Are you bragging with your first grade homework pion?
5 years ago
Real math doesn't use decimals.
5 years ago
^ stopped at 3rd grade.
5 years ago
.3 repeating is irrational--so therefore not a 100% accurate representation of the number.
4 years ago
Wow, and I didn't even need a 10-page report like some assholes down there....
4 years ago
nothing wrong here, it solved itself
5 years ago
0.9 repeating is just 0.9 repeating. It only rounds to one, it doesn't mean its numerical value is 1. Dumbass trolled yourself.
5 years ago
It doesn't round to 1.

.99999 = 1
5 years ago
.999999 = .999999
1=1
5 years ago
The solution to this is that .333 repeating does not actually equal 1/3, just as .999 repeating doesn't equal 1. That is the whole point of a repeating decimal, no matter how far you take it out you always have a remainder.
5 years ago
How do you people fail at middle school math?
5 years ago
who exactly are you talking to?
5 years ago
Myself.... Obviously
5 years ago
Yet you responded
5 years ago
Oh, ok. Sorry to interrupt.
5 years ago
Sorry, how rude of me.
5 years ago
* Einrednatreb pushes his glasses back up and signals for bono to continue teaching the class *
5 years ago
Now on to chapter 5: The Rise of the Jew
5 years ago
you fuckos are missing the point that the 0.3333 with the line on top of it means an infinite continuation. to be precise, it would be 0.3333 etc. with the final digit always equaling 1/3.
5 years ago
and 1/3 * 3 is always going to equal 1.
5 years ago
.333 repeating is the closest numerical representation of one third but will never equal 1/3
5 years ago
2 and 3 are correct....That is all...
5 years ago
I HAVE NO =
5 years ago
This is called a indefinite geometric series. Proofs can be found online, ill copy a fairly easy to understand.

10^(-n) = 1/10^n

.9 = 1 - 10^(-1)
.99 = 1 - 10^(-2)
.999 = 1 - 10^(-3)
.99999... = 1 - 10^n when n approaches negative infinity

because n is a very very large negative number, like
10^(-10) = .000 000 000 1
10^(-13) = .000 000 000 000 1
10^n when n approaches negative infinity = zero

Hence,
.99999... = 1 - 10^n when n approaches negative infinity
= 1 - 0
= 1

Overall point is, if you keep "zooming" in on any point you can find more room, so you define your numbers based on the scale in which your going to use. For most cases .9999... will be understood as 1. In the scale of quantum mechanics you will be dealing with scales of 9.9 x 10-35 which for dramatics is .999999999999999999999999999999999999
Once you reach this point in dealing with the original issue of .999.... = 1. You can then determine that you keep going towards infinity, in which .999... = 1.
5 years ago
And all of that is great, but .99999999999999999999 still doesn't equal 1. It's just rounded to or understood to be 1.
5 years ago
Ugh, I can't believe I got sucked into this..
5 years ago
if .99999 doesn't equal one then how come I proved it with maths?
5 years ago
Let me be the first to give you kudos for this. I'm positive that the next time I log in, this will most likely be FAR AND AWAY the most discussed topic.
5 years ago
Thanks but there's no way. This post is almost a day old and my current project is already far and away most discussed.

Still, I appreciate the honesty for once.
5 years ago
I'm a sucker for brainy discourse. It's hard to find fault in it.
5 years ago
Then perhaps you can help me.

http://muchosucko.com/97741/James-Bond-Riddle
5 years ago
When you think of 0.999... as being 'a little below 1', it's because in your mind, you've stopped expanding it; that is, instead of
0.999999...
you're really thinking of
0.999...999
which is not the same thing. You're absolutely right that 0.999...999 is a little below 1, but 0.999999... doesn't fall short of 1 _until you stop expanding it. But you never stop expanding it, so it never falls short of 1.

Suppose someone gives you $1000, but says: "Now, don't spend it all, because I'm going to go off and find the largest integer, and after I find it I'm going to want you to give me $1 back." How much money has he really given you?

On the one hand, you might say: "He's given me $999, because he's going to come back later and get $1."

But on the other hand, you might say: "He's given me $1000, because he's never going to come back!"
It's only when you realize that in this instance, 'later' is the same
as 'never', that you can see that you get to keep the whole $1000. In the same way, it's only when you really understand that the expansion of 0.999999... never ends that you realize that it's not really 'a little below 1' at all.
5 years ago
Durbs, I understand your explanation but, mathematically, .99999999999999999999 (no matter how much you expand it) will infinitely fall infinitesimally short of being 1.
5 years ago
Bono, can't help you with that one. Not even the mighty google could answer it for me.
5 years ago
FAN, no.... Imagine taking a square, splitting it in half and saying how many more times can you do this. An infinite number of times. in fact you can do it 999..._ times. Yet how many squares did you start with?
5 years ago
I understand that .999999999 becomes, in our heads, 1 because it is easier to comprehend/write. However, to the science of numbers, logic, and reason, .99999999999999999999 is still just that. It'll never be 1.

I'm thinking of Bono-ing this thread. This is kind of fun.
5 years ago
Oh, now see.. I was almost gonna change my opinion of you until I read the caption.
5 years ago
I'm glad you didn't! that would have been so weird.
5 years ago
Yeah. Then we'd have been facebook friends. I'd introduce you to my friends as "this dude I used to want to fly across the country to kill but now he's cool." Nope. I couldn't abide by that.

For now, we'll just continue to be at odds and mean mug while sharing fluffernutter.
5 years ago
Sharing?

Did she dream about sucking your dick too?
5 years ago
Months ago.
5 years ago
I'm calling bullshit.
5 years ago
I'm generally not one to kiss and tell but since she put it out there, http://muchosucko.com/96631/How-to-steal-a-Pizza
5 years ago
Yeah, that doesn't count. I was banned.

She actually told me she dreamed of sucking my dick.
5 years ago
bono is a cool guy:

debate
5 years ago
There is no debate.
5 years ago
Affirmative Rebuttal?
5 years ago
Bono simply is.
5 years ago
hee hee hee
5 years ago
Think of the average of 0.999... and 1. As an average of any two numbers, it's greater than 0.999... but is less than 1. Can we determine its decimal expansion? Say, what is its integer part. Since it's less than 1 but greater than 0 < 0.999..., its integer part is bound to be 0. What about its first decimal digit. Since 0.9 < 0.999..., that digit must be 9. And the second one? Since 0.99 < 0.999..., the second digit must also be 9. And so on. It appears like the average of 0.999... and 1 is 0.999... If the latter is denoted as X, (X + 1)/2 = X. X + 1 = 2X. X = 1.
5 years ago
fuck off durbish, check out Troll Science 3.
5 years ago
Fuck ill just reverse logic this, if
3/3= 1
1/3 = .333..._
.333_ = .999_
Your 1/3 is wrong if you want to argue the logic of math.
5 years ago
.333_ * 3 = .999_ (correction)
5 years ago
Where did this conversation take place? Link the thread?
5 years ago
basement, portland oregon
5 years ago
http://www.cut-the-knot.org/arithmetic/999999.shtml
5 years ago
I'm sure there's a better story here. Do tell.
5 years ago
.9999 is wearing a hat... However, 1 is not. They are not equal.
5 years ago
let's look at a practical example: 3 condoms for $1

the actual prices would be:
$0.34 for 1, $0.67 for 2, and $1 for 3.
5 years ago
sure!..at Family Dollarâ„¢...
5 years ago
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