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by thatdude420

submitted April 14th 2012

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How a country can have the death penalty & still dare to call itself civilised it beyond me.
5 years ago
In countries as large as the US, is it possible to deter criminality without the death penalty?
5 years ago
I wish we could kill criminals more often.
5 years ago
wow Oranjeboom is a pansy ass liberal. i for one think its wrong to spend a fortune keeping criminals alive in this country , i think we should bring hanging back here in the UK
5 years ago
Do you think the death penalty really deters the type of people from committing the type of crimes that carry the sentence?

5 years ago
no , criminals will always commits crimes , but as huge drain on the tax payer they should be irradicated
5 years ago
You assume everyone in prison is guilty. People are always being released after being found not guilty when new evidence is found. Be a bitch if they were killed.
5 years ago
You simply can not win an argument in favour of capital punishment after people have been released from death row.
5 years ago
ok , so how about letting criminals rot in prisons of abject squalor . should they be allowed any human rights ?
5 years ago
Yes, of course. Rehabilitation.
5 years ago
You are an idiot fries, btw.
5 years ago
its not about rehabilitation , its about educating before they get into that state , when a society has no prospects then crime is the only option. but for they truly sick and twisted individuals death is the quickest solution.... has Ian Brady been rehabilitated ? had Hindley been rehabilitated ?
5 years ago
'Rehabilitation' hahaha
5 years ago
Hindley was a fucked up bitch who even when she claimed to be going clean on her crimes she still took another 15 years before she fully admitted what her and Brady had done. She would rather lie to pansy liberals in the hope of being released instead of fully being honest from the start or even earlier than she did.
5 years ago
There's a simply compromise. Forced labour.
5 years ago
*simple
5 years ago
Depends on the charge and the situation of the person. It's cheaper to just kill them, but America's jail system is corrupt. Look up Russia's Toughest Prisons. Black Dolphin, they keep the inmates completely isolated. It has a psychological affect, worse than death, making them want death. For America, people with life sentences need to be either killed or treated like the inmates in Black Dolphin with absolutely nothing, which, personally, is worse than death. Otherwise, we're just paying for them to live and socialize with their inmates. Stupid.
5 years ago
Yes, I'd rather try and rehabilitate Ian Huntley than Kill everyone sent to prison, including the wrongly convicted.

Definitely the better more civilised option.
5 years ago
There are too many issues for simple minded folk like you to consider, obviously. America is a wealthy country with the death penalty, and you can see by the statistics that it doesn't stop crime.
5 years ago
lol well hellooo mr. fancy pants!

Rehabilitate Ian Huntley... No.
5 years ago
Fries... totally agree with you about the UK and death penalty. For us, it got to a point living in London that we just said enough was enough. With eastern euro's pouring in, asylum seekers etc etc it 's become a joke. My biggest gripe is the people, any people that arrive on your doorstep, move into your house and want to live by their rules....Wrong, wrong, wrong.
Australian PM Gillard has the right idea saying" Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia ".
5 years ago
*makes mental note... Must move to Australia.
5 years ago
I agree it's not simple, but if somebody got convicted for violent robberies more then once. (I mean armed robberies where people get killed) And it is proven the person is guilty beyond any reasonable doubt. I see no reason not to have them sentenced to death. I do agree that it doesn't stop crime. Rehabilitation does have his limit's though. I thought China had a kind of 3 strikes your out system. If it weren't corrupt all over it wouldn't be a bad idea. You get rehabilitation opportunities, twice, then you are no longer worth it, and you go into a forced labor camp or get shot. I think that might be a workable system.
5 years ago
name one case where a person who was executed committed another crime.

looks like capital punishment works.
5 years ago
fact
5 years ago
*you're out ..
god damnit
5 years ago
I do have a problem with the death penalty, because human error is an inevitable fact and an innocent person WILL be killed. On the other hand, if the person lives, they can be compensated for time spent in prison if it is revealed that they are innocent. I don't want to pay for the rest of the prison population to live however, they should be put to work and finally contribute to society rather than leech off of it. I don't expect Orange to appreciate that because it sounds like he formed his opinion based on textbook political correctness that they teach in British secondary schools.
5 years ago
"And it is proven the person is guilty beyond any reasonable doubt. I see no reason not to have them sentenced to death."

* Oranjeboom bangs his head against the wall *


As I've already pointed out, people have been convicted, sentenced to death & then released.

How dumb are you people to not realise this?
5 years ago
Of course there is human error, But not so much when somebody comes out of a bank shooting people in the face and is apprehended whilst doing it. If then he even admits doing it ... I see no problem getting rid of a person like that.
5 years ago
Those aren't the people filling up the prisons though. Killing them would have a negligible effect. Most times, the suspect would be killed at the scene during those cases. But yeah, they
5 years ago
in NZ 2007 it cost $92000 to keep an inmate for a year. Ridiculous. Underfloor heating, tv's the list goes on and on.
5 years ago
..should be killed. Dunno what happened there.
5 years ago
I doubt you would support the death penalty if you were sentenced to death when innocent.

http://listverse.com/2010/01/12/10-convicts-presumed-innocent-after-execution/

Here is a list of people who were placed on death row, before being released.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/innocence-list-those-freed-death-row

Average number of years between being sentenced to death and exoneration: 9.8 years

Number of cases in which DNA played a substantial factor in establishing innocence: 17

5 years ago
I know those aren't filling prison. But it's the only ones I see where death penalty is justified. The rest should be put to work. And not some cheap ass labor work that takes away work from sheltered workshops. Like folding bags. Hard ass dangerous labor in mines.
5 years ago
i mean...maybe jesus is the only person to commit a crime after being executed...
5 years ago
Zombies aren't friendly neither ...
5 years ago
So If you're out on the street shooting people .. DNA is gonna prove it wasn't actually you ... Some people actually get caught during the act ?
5 years ago
"Some people are clearly guilty through blah blah fucking blah"

No fucking shit, Einstein.

The point is: You have the death penalty or you don't.

If you do, innocent people will be killed.

Unlike you fucking retards, I think that is unacceptable. I think it's disgusting to accept that a few innocent people will be killed so you don't have to keep guilty people in jail.
5 years ago
If you get convicted you should go to jail and stay there for the duration of your sentence, but if you then get found innocent you can be released.

You can't release someone you killed. A "sorry, my bad" isn't going to do much good either.
5 years ago
Is it disgusting to let guilty people back on the street and have innocent people killed by them ?
Happens every day.
5 years ago
That's a false dichotomy. When there is overwhelming evidence that someone is guilty not beyond reasonable doubt but beyond all doubt, then they should be killed, just as you would put a dangerous dog down. Like lets say someone confesses to murdering a child, recorded themselves doing it, left DNA evidence, and possessed the murder weapon that was registered to them, wrote up plans to kill the child before the act, and carried it out to the letter... lets face it that's not going to happen, but if it did, if you think they should live, you are a fucking idiot.
5 years ago
All of the above happend right here in Belgium. Mark Dutroux, kept children in his basement. Recorded the raping, killed them, the weapons where in his possession and he confessed it all. (more then enough DNA all over the place)
5 years ago
I hope you guys get accused of rape when you fuck a drunk girl.
5 years ago
so, we agree that jesus is the only example of a criminal to commit crimes after being executed?
5 years ago
Awwww look at you two dimwits liking each others comments. Adorable.
5 years ago
In that scenario makodragon, they should be put in prison for life. They shouldn't be killed though, because following them into the gas chamber could be one of the MANY people listed on the site I liked to up there ^^^^. An innocent person, seemingly convicted beyond all reasonable doubt.
5 years ago
Now that's a different thing altogether. So fuck you because I know what that's like.
5 years ago
^interposts. Reasonable doubt is not in question here.
5 years ago
A day in the live of an executioner:

Prisoner A: Recoded himself killing his family. *Dead*
Prisoner B: Kidnapped & killed 17 young girls and ate their ovaries before cutting off their faces & taken them with him to the police station *Dead*
Prisoner C: Carpet fitter convicted of the murder of several women, DNA found on each woman, semen in 2. *Dead*

6 years later

Call operator at USA Carpets caught in the act of killing a woman & confesses to the murders pinned on Prisoner C.

Unacceptable.
5 years ago
You can clearly distinguish the difference between those cases because of the way you have used them to try and support your argument. You've basically proven our point.
5 years ago
How about if three or more people see you commit a murder, you shoiuld skip death row and be imediately executed?
5 years ago
There was no reason to kill C. Can you not understand the simple criteria by which we are saying it might be acceptable.
5 years ago
OJ, did I say a rape convict should be convicted ? I know they are in some countries with a death penalty yes. I never said I supported that. You don't realize just until what point I agree with you. I for example wouldn't want to have a death penalty in my country, not with the crap justice system we have. The thing is I could understand a system where people that committed the worst crimes get executed. And MD and I are secret mucho lovers and you are just jealous :p
5 years ago
who ever said the world was perfect and mistakes wouldn't be made?
5 years ago
You can not intelligently defend the death penalty, and the innocent people killed by the various state are evidence to that.
5 years ago
I think I just did.
5 years ago
Lowieken... I told you it was too soon!
5 years ago
You're dumber than I though because you keep saying reasonable doubt.

How many times do I have to point out that people have been convicted BEYOND ALL REASONABLE FUCKING DOUBT & then found to be innocent.

You're repetition of it is pathetic.
5 years ago
Orange, do you think that there are some people who do deserve to die. Not be killed, but deserve it?
5 years ago
let's not forget that the death penalty has historically been applied for myriad reasons...reasons as simple as theft. in the end, capital punishment eliminates recidivism.
5 years ago
Yeah, I hate people who recidiv.
5 years ago
I'm going to say yes to that, even though I'm fully aware you think it supports your argument.

I'm smart enough to realise that whilst I'd like people to be killed, they shouldn't be because when a state is allowed to kill people, not only the guilty are killed.

* Oranjeboom is forced to repeat himself AGAIN *


Your position: People should be killed by the state when convicted beyond all reasonable doubt. That would be fine if it was always the case, but that is impossible.

So...

My position: The death penalty is uncivilised, as it is possible for an innocent person to be put to death. Anyone convicted "beyond all reasonable doubt" should be put behind bars for the rest of their life.
5 years ago
So we actually agree ... As long as your system cannot guarantee no innocent people get killed, you are against. Exactly my point.
I think it might be possible in some cases to determine without doubt someone is guilty. But I wouldn't trust my country's justice system in that, an it's far from being the worst on this planet.
5 years ago
Orange, at 40000 dollars a year to keep them alive, is it not a bit smarter to kill these well deserving trash heaps and instead spend that money on, say, educating children? Or perhaps feeding the hungry? Or, eradicating cruel diseses? You liberals want to save those who are useless, and kill innocent babies instead. No wonder you make no sense.
5 years ago
If I were imprisioned for a crime that I didn't commit, I'd rather just be executed.. Spending the rest of my life surrounded by actual real criminals would be much worse..
5 years ago
I'm not sure who you are even talking to anymore OJ, because that's not my position. My position is closer to your position that the one you are saying is mine.
5 years ago
Hmmm, yeah asking for the needle. I don't know. everybody has the right to die I guess. But you could easily put up a regime in prison everyone would prefer to die ...
5 years ago
Airlift all criminals to the middle of the Antarctic, If they can make their way home they can be free, If not well the polar bears get a delicious snack..
5 years ago
Yep the polar bears on the antarctic ...
5 years ago
* in the antarctic ...
5 years ago
Was a good plan without that flaw though.
5 years ago
lol Arctic....
5 years ago
It's fascinating to see how much more we value life then we used to. Like TR said, we used to decapitate people for stealing.
5 years ago
no one has the right to die as of now...at least not in america...attempted suicide is still a crime.
5 years ago
7 billion or so people on the planet. I think we can start thining out the herd a little, criminals would be a good place to start..
5 years ago
I meant, I think everyone has that right. And suicide isn't a crime anymore in Belgium. I think. (I should check as I am not really sure)
5 years ago
Don't worry conky , I have a strong suspicion that we will thin ourselves out. If we don't mother nature will wipe her ass clean of us.
5 years ago
According to Wikipedia (attempted) suicide is no longer a crime in Belgium. Can't find since when.
5 years ago
Orange, do you realize how insanely strong the evidence and conviction must be for someone to get the death penalty?

Your claims of innocent people being executed is bullshit liberal ranting. With all due respect, shut the fuck up.
5 years ago
I personally feel they need to extend the death penalty to a lot more people. All murderers not just 1st degree, child rapists, and career criminals.Maybe a 3 strikes law where if you're convicted of three felonies on three different occasions, you get the axe. Get rid of all the fucking overcrowding! Lol
5 years ago
No, it needs to be confined to cases with absolute certainty of guilt. With a 3 strikes law, the 3rd strike could easily be a wrong conviction and then an innocent person dies for petty crimes, such as parking fines.
5 years ago
I'd call it; "OrangeBloom's Law".
5 years ago
Agreed no one should die unless its 100%provenjust they are fuilty of killing another person
5 years ago
Parking tickets arent felonies fucktard.
5 years ago
god, you're dumb.
5 years ago
What we need is another World War. This has in the past thinned out these petty criminal,work shy, good for nothing types & they were awarded medals of distinction. No more jail time, off to the front with you my son, go and fight for something, instead of being a burdon on you community. Go out with style & kill someone, it's not a fucking computer game. We would all be better off. Give them a rifle & off they go......
5 years ago
You people are insanly stupid.

"Orange, do you realize how insanely strong the evidence and conviction must be for someone to get the death penalty?"

He says this after I posted a link to a full list of people who were convicted, with what must have seemed to be 100% proof at the time, only to be later released.

The same point from you fucking idiots again and again. What may seem like 100% proof at one time, is 0% later.
5 years ago
bring back the public executions. bring back the guillotine
5 years ago
You should all be embarrassed that you don't understand such a simple point.

You keep saying kill them when its 100% proven, but the 'guilty' verdict is what it comes down to. When its (for example) a murder case, that verdict mean the exact same thing whether someone was found guilty after a 6 year court case, or caught killing someone infront of a judge.
5 years ago
Why not extend your liberal concept to the rest of law. If we don't possess the ability to build a 100% proof case, why should we be imprisoning people if there's a chance that innocent people are imprisoned. Because if innocent people will die, then innocent people are incarcerated right now so we should do without penalizing people altogether.
5 years ago
You simple minded little person, still not getting it, huh?

You can free an innocent person, but there is no going back when you kill the wrong guy.
5 years ago
I'd rather a guilty man go free than see an innocent man put to death for a crime he didn't commit.
5 years ago
You can't get time back...
that's just how stupid your argument sounds to me, especially as you have repeatedly failed to grasp what is being said. You just keep on attacking the same invalid argument of your own construction, whilst trying to insult people personally because you have nothing else to say.
5 years ago
I'm attacking the argument that the death penalty should be within the law.

From what you just said, you seem to think that as we may temporarily imprison innocent people, we may as well kill a few, too.
5 years ago
People are put on death row when they are deemed guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

People have been released from death row after being found guilty.

Innocent people have been killed.

Killing innocent people is wrong.

The death penalty is wrong.

The End.
5 years ago
Yeah, that's exactly what I said, but it's obviously not a solution. You are saying the same, but at the other extreme. Like I said at the beginning, I don't agree with the death penalty. But I don't see why you or I should pay to keep child murderers in relative luxury. I also don't want innocent people to die, so I was trying to suggest a hypothetical alternative, where the death penalty MIGHT be appropriate for extremely rare cases. Pretty much everything said in the thread has some flaw or another. You began by simply saying it's uncivilized to have a death penallty, I'm saying I wish there was a way to kill those fuckers, because they deserve it, and if that makes me a simple minded barbarian, then fuck it, at least I'd never defended infanticide.
5 years ago
Let's just kiss and make up. No homo.
5 years ago
Done.
5 years ago
Oh right it's only just in the open and you run off with OJ :(
5 years ago
O.O I had to let OJ get involved, you could feel his burning jealousy.
5 years ago
HEY ORANJEBOOM! I GOT AN IDEA!

HOW ABOUT YOU REPEAT THE SAME FUCKING THING!

OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER

MAYBE SOMEONE WILL CARE!

Nobody cares about your handful of people that got off on legal technicalities. I don't believe for a single second anyone that "gets off" on a murder1 charge isn't guilty. If you don't like it, fuck you.
5 years ago
um

* conky pushes the button *
5 years ago
why would you want to rehabilitate Ian Huntley ? he's a fucked up pervert that should have he testicles removed with a rusty knife.
Now Maxine Carr on the other hand is one sex chick that i would like to 'rehabilitate'
5 years ago
lol orangeboom got 11 stfus
5 years ago
I can think of a few US based prisons that people could be sent to that might be worse than death. In fact, I think I can think of more than a few....

5 years ago
Clarence Ray Allen...That's a dude???
5 years ago
do all native american indians think they are Crazy Horse ?
5 years ago
They were the best people on the planet until the parasites arrived.
5 years ago
They were all magical unicorns who talked to the trees and gave Mother Nature rimjobs without asking for a handy in return.

Of course you'd have to ignore their constant tribal warfare and the fact that they couldn't unite to fight off settlers because of their non-stop infighting.
5 years ago
That makes them bad people then ? They also didn't decimate all things living around them and seek new and improved ways of annihilating people from foreign lands with the intent of stealing their resources now did they?
On a side note keep your dirty newb ass the fuck away from me, I wasn't talking to you.
5 years ago
The feathers a Native American wears symbolizes their bloodlust and complete lack of any regard for Nature, particularly endangered species like whales (which they eat raw) and eagles. They are violent killing machines and show off their bloodthirst at all times, but god help you if you point it out, lest you be branded a racist for using a "stereotype" that only they can use at will when it suits them.
5 years ago
There were plenty to go around and they were not wiping them out. And this country was beautiful all over. And we "the white man" have no blood lust right? And "were" not evil in any way correct?
5 years ago
All you newbs are full of shit.
5 years ago
^hippy
5 years ago
^not Mako
5 years ago
I'd drink with them but I'm leaving when the bloodshed starts.
5 years ago
This newb calling ma a hippy is the stupidest fucking thing I have heard in a long time.
5 years ago
That's cos it was a fucking joke.
5 years ago
Mag, they failed the Darwin test. Sorry about that but a smarter and tougher race replaced them, get used to it. Remember that the US army was mainly filled with those who could not hold a normal job, so our worst beat indians"best". Survival of the fittest at its best example.
5 years ago
Another dumbass....
The native american didn't even have a word for or understanding of the word lie. If we told them our being here would enable them to shit gold and piss sunshine they would have believed us. And if you get swarmed over and eaten by a million ants that doesn't make them smarter or tougher, just more numerous and vicious. We were simply willing to do and say anything to enable our conquest. We were more "advanced" technically and more numerous but in no way shape or form the tougher race.
5 years ago
This is the attitude that will be "our" nations downfall, arrogance, no sense of truth or honor, and our materialistic nature.
5 years ago
You should watch idiocracy. Just stop after the first 3 minutes. After that well it's all downhill. But listen to what is said in those first 3 minutes ... then look around you.
5 years ago
Evolution favours adaptation.
5 years ago
I just hate that stupid Bindi dot and all that curry these damn injuns like to eat!
5 years ago
Think you got the wrong indian...
5 years ago
the indian tribes of northern america had lived in harmony with nature , they only killed the bison that they need to survive on and used the whole animal for a mulitude of things ... the white man comes along and near wipes the bison out. to be honest we whites are a parasite on the earth
5 years ago
I saw on Q.I. (excellent programme) that actually the Native Americans were very wasteful when killing Bison, because they would make them stampede in huge herds off of cliffs, and maybe butcher one or two Bison.
5 years ago
Humans in general are parasitic. White people are just better at it.
5 years ago
The whites (the british) also wiped out the native aboriginals in Tasmania,shot them for sport!
5 years ago
Sounds fun.
5 years ago
When I was in grade school my teacher told me to sit indian style, so I got a bottle of whiskey and laid in a gutter.
5 years ago
anybody claiming that one ethnic group or race is morally superior to another one is an idiot - whether it's someone talking up the Natives, or someone else heiling hitler

5 years ago
Yeah, Back during feudal medieval times, the very same thing was happening, only, it was obviously all white conflict. There's no difference, other than when europeans were able to reach more primitive tribes, they weren't prepared.
5 years ago
these are all nobodies
5 years ago
Require all citizens to carry guns and be trained to use them, and we won't need the death penalty.
5 years ago
:)
5 years ago
"Please, don't."
5 years ago
yeah, like you're inocent
5 years ago
The death penalty is a tool for eliminating societys totally worthless and obnoxious people. All of these people killed someone under agravating circumstances and I have no pity for them.
5 years ago
My last words would be, I'm going to shit myself.
5 years ago
My first cousin was killed by a drunk hit and run driver. He killed three other people in the car with her. He had no drivers license and was in a stolen van. His priors included child pornography, burglery and drug selling.

He's awaiting trial and he's pleaded innocent even though his blood is all over the van and an eye witness IDed him.

He's not eligible for the death penalty but the world would be a better place if he was dead.
5 years ago
I actually think spending the rest of your life sucking dick is worse. So I'm guessing he will do that in prison.
5 years ago
In 1989 I was on a grand ury that incicted a punk named Randy Dobbs who was 15. He had played hookey from school and while at home he called in a pizza and when the 20 year old girl got there he shot her through the head with his daddys .357 colt python revolver.. She died instantly.

He did it so that he couldhave a joyride in her van. His victim was married with a 7 month old son.

Whe he was arrested he was smiling from ear to ear obviously proud and defiant. He was not eligible for the death penalty as he was only 15.

He was sentenced to lefe with the possibility of aprole aftet 20 years but apparently he has been denied for whatever reason.

Looking at his picture he seems content and happy.

You can look him up at georgia inmate locators. His name is Randy Dobbs.
5 years ago
excuse typos.
5 years ago
thank you but the typos fucked up that whole story
5 years ago
Anyone that does that sort of thing just isn't wired right in the head. They never will be either, no matter how many meds and head shrinks you send them too. Best thing to do is lock them up and throw away the key. -Or give them lethal injection, when possible.

Look, there's 6.8 BILLION mouthbreathers on this mudball we call earth. I honestly don't see anything wrong with eliminating this sort of person from the gene pool.
5 years ago
so you are saying that Hiter wasn't entirely wrong.....


I see. Continue

5 years ago
^ Godwin's Law?
5 years ago
We passed the 7 billion mark a little while ago, chief.
5 years ago
The way these comments are going, this sub needs a Politics tag.
5 years ago
Or a "leftist faggot" and a "right-wing retard" tag.
5 years ago
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