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Which 'Ism' are you going to drink?

Fun and Facts About America, John Sutherland Productions. Creative Commons license: Public Domain. This Cold War-era cartoon uses humor to tout the dangers of Communism and the benefits of capitalism.

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by enbeezy

submitted March 20th 2010

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The plain truth.
8 years ago
Hella
8 years ago
yeah not twisted propaganda at all...
8 years ago
Seemed fairly accurate.
8 years ago
Although I'm sure when this cartoon came out some fat loser went over to commie Russia and looked around for months until he found one of the rare families that was actually better off than the average american family and filmed them to prove that communism is awesome.
8 years ago
Yeah, capitalism was great as a bridge, a build up. However, just like Marx said, capitalism seems to have run it's life cycle of around 60 years.

The free market is propped up by your government spending trillions on buying into huge failing organisations, but that isn't nationalisation, of course not. That would be on a pillar of communism. Around 40 million Americans are below the poverty line, without even regular access to food. Homelessness is rampant.

Yeah, capitalism is fucking awesome. The USSR outlawed lobotomies whilst the Kennedys were incapacitating Rosemary. Who had the best intentions there?

Capitalism & democracy will never survive the test of time, it's impossible. You just get into more & more debt until it all collapses.
8 years ago
We haven't had a free market for a long time yet somehow everyone still blames it for everything.
8 years ago
I never understood the poverty line anyway. America is where the poor and hungry are fat. A billion chinese would probably give up a lung or testicle or something to live like a poor American with his fucking food stamps and cable TV and obama phone and welfare apartment instead of working in a dirty factory all day then coming home to an ugly wife and burgers made from newspaper.
8 years ago
Democracy is fucking stupid though. We should vote, but your voting power as a group shouldn't be determined by how many leechy little retarded shit kids you can pop out. Votes should be tied to land ownership, your share of the country.
8 years ago
Fuck Marx.
8 years ago
The idea of tying voting power to land ownership is stupid. In a capitalist society, that just means that the ability to vote would be help by fewer and fewer people.

Money makes money, so when you control the people who make the law...
8 years ago
*held
8 years ago
It might be stupid but it's less stupid than any of the other ideas.
8 years ago
The ability to vote shouldn't automatically be granted to every human. That just falls apart once the leeches realize that they can vote to rob the productive people once there's enough of them.
8 years ago
You have a point there, but maybe not if we:

Keep democracy.
Ban lobbyists.
Inform the voters.
Stop political engineering with issues.
Actually hold referendums.
8 years ago
How are you gonna inform the voters? You're just replacing the lobbyist with the media. You'll have a fart tax in 2 weeks 'cause CNN will convince faggots like teenag0r that the gases from our rears are causing global warming and the country will flood.
8 years ago
I like my landowner voting, with a return to constitutional limits on gov power. I think it will prevent those limits from failing again.
8 years ago
Then you get people like Rupert Murdoch & Ted Turner buying up the land & putting in power whoever they want without any problems.

You can inform the voters & educate them, rather than coerce them with gimicks.

At least that is what I like to think, but then I remember that most people read tabloids, devour soaps/costume drama. However, there aren't many people who watch Question Time/ Newsnight/ Daily Politics. We have access to far better information about politicians/political issues than you do in the states, but people chose not to take any of it in.

That is also down to the culture that we have created for ourselves. So maybe complete freedom is the problem.
8 years ago
You give people freedom & they fuck it up.

You giver power to well intentioned 'founding fathers' & that gets taken over by self serving politicians....
8 years ago
...like anyone is gonna read that. Fuck, OJ? Dude.
8 years ago
Fuck democracy, the tyranny of the mob.
8 years ago
I'm not talking the any of the generic fucking idiots on here, I'm just talking to Wanko.

Couldn't give a fuck about the opinions of most people on here, as they are ill-informed & worthless.

I don't have the answer, but at least I have justifiable ideas.
8 years ago
I just wish I knew wtf you're talking about. Coz, you know...I'm not reading that OJ. I'm a reformed verbose poster.
8 years ago
Government & social structures, associated problems, possible solutions & general hopelessness.
8 years ago
If you're relying on informing and educating voters then you're just putting the power in the hands of the people responsible for informing and educating.

I'd like to think people would be better at holding the land if they knew it represented political power. If not... well then, fuck, people are just beyond hope.

To keep the system from turning to shit, the voters have to be eternally vigilant. My land ownership idea is the best I could come up with to try to pick the people who are capable of keeping things from turning bad and giving them a reason and a way to do so. It might be there is no way, and the weak will always hand over their freedoms, and everyone else's, in exchange for cozy government parenting. Then the solution is to, as an individual, make the most out if you can and become a rich motherfucker.

Seeing as my land ownership plan isn't going into effect any time soon, I'm relying on the second option.
8 years ago
which are we? fattest country, or a country where 40 million dont have "Regular Food Access?...i is confused now
8 years ago
Both poss, that is the essence of capitalism.
8 years ago
*runs on treadmill whilst gulping down ho-hos now*
8 years ago
"If you're relying on informing and educating voters then you're just putting the power in the hands of the people responsible for informing and educating."

That is exactly how is should be. The 'government' shouldn't be a secretive sect with a frontman, it should simply be a representative body of the people who maintain a degree of responsibility & influence.

8 years ago
Maybe your land idea would support than, but there would need to be a limit of votes any one person can have, regardless of land possessed. Don't know what that would be, but you'd be able to work out a reasonable level.
8 years ago
Well if the voting worked that way then there would be justification for all tax to only be property tax and that could be tied to area as well. Should keep taxes low and deter mass ownership of land.
8 years ago
I wouldn't put a voting limit in place because then people would become too complacent. Let them watch and see who is amassing land and get off their asses to do something about it. If they can't, then we just end up back where are now.
8 years ago
Here Oranje, did you notice the opening music is your beloved national anthem? Wtf?
8 years ago
Wanko, voting based on land ownership is retarded. The catholic church owns more land than any other organization, not to mention if your house isn't completely paid off you don't own your house, the bank does.
8 years ago
confused fat malnourished marsupial here...

oj, are you a socialist, a communist (in the pure sense) , an oligarchist, an elitist?...honestly, mostly i think you just need to get laid more often, dude
8 years ago
*cues up old squishy ex-gf videotapes now
8 years ago
I'm just in favour of logic, rationality & fairness, poss.

& I probably do.
8 years ago
he's a bitter fuckin grey toothed shitbird.Honestly,he should do himself a world of good and suck on the end of a pistol.I like this statement.."so maybe freedom is the problem".Eastern euros would bash your empty fuckin skull in with a cold war era belt buckle/
8 years ago
Adams the church should pay tax on that land at the same rate anyone else does.


Also when you take a mortgage, you own the property because you purchase it with money that you borrowed for that purpose. Similar to financing a car. The house or car is collateral on the loan but the bank does not own them. If you leased the land it would be different.
8 years ago
"justifiable ideas" my ass. Study philosophy (with a heavy emphasis on logic) and economics for 8 years and get back to me.
8 years ago
"logic, rationality & fairness" The last contradicts the first two. Egalitarianism is completely irrational.
8 years ago
studying philosophy doesnt bring u anywhere except to the conclusion that everything sucks... men are fat lazy retarded and egoistic
are thrown into a world they didnt chose, didnt even chose to get fuckin born to begin with and are obviously unable to keep public interest in mind
gotta love philosophy -.-
8 years ago
Fine, then study rational philosophy specifically.
8 years ago
BTY, either shut up like a dumb noob or explain why the theory of egalitarianism is irrational.

I view it as logical, rational, fair &, most of all, natural.
8 years ago
Because justice is rational and no one earns and produces the same amount of wealth. Theft is not rational nor is it ever rational to violate rights.
8 years ago
and who exactly proves u that justice is rational?
according to a nice guy from scotland the mind is only capable of dividing between a right and a wrong statement and only our sentiments are able to distinguish between just and unjust as well as theyre the only thing that makes us act. i think he has a good point.
so if u say theft aka injustice is irrational ud have to say that justice is it as well as theyre closely connected to each other
/smart-arse
8 years ago
^ Calling everyone around you an idiot (yet again) is one hell of a ballsy statement, Oranje, considering you get your socioeconomic data from Wikipedia.

You can bemoan the American system, the American people, and American history all you want- in the final analysis, two things ring true: 1) Despite driving you to the point of derangement, Americans will NEVER give a shit about what Europeans think of them. We told your Crown to fuck off 2 hundred years ago and haven't looked back once (except to save your asses from tyrants) and 2): If EVER there was anything more evocative of *broken* American culture than this website, I don't know what it is- ...yet just like Hank (at least until he decided to spend more than 2 consecutive nights with his children)...here YOU are....night after night after night-conjointly bitching about the US and at the same time soaking it up.

I'll take an idiot who's true to his soul over a hypocrite any day of the week.
8 years ago
^evidence of why claude will never "wario" on us

ps - and cat, i mostly agree with you, at least this once
8 years ago
Everyone around me is an idiot.

Everything is relative.
8 years ago
I hate the advertising robot. I got a throbbing cock under the video, and its fucking distracting!!
8 years ago
cant keep your eyes away from it?
8 years ago
it is just to much, increase your cock size with 8 cm, and they are making flash point out of it that pokes the video im trying to watch, is hard not to notice!
8 years ago
huh huh huh...you said hard
8 years ago
huh huh huh... so did you
8 years ago
WAR IS PEACE.

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY.

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.

8 years ago
FAT IS HUNGRY
8 years ago
Stoopid twats
8 years ago
Americans like drinking jISM
8 years ago
whammy
8 years ago
haha..8 hours later
8 years ago
real zinger
8 years ago
you really hit a home run with that chunk of gold
8 years ago
i dont understand why nobody got it... bunch of thickies
8 years ago
oh, we got it.
8 years ago
thanks for the acknowledgements then
8 years ago
Couldn't be arsed
8 years ago
what the fuck does "couldnt be arsed" mean anyway chuckles?
8 years ago
So is sexism a type of government?
8 years ago
if you want it to be. just let me be a senator.
8 years ago
CruelHM> so OJ, you're e-fucking this Alana? Hmm. What about poor Jonesy? Let that dog see that rabbit.
<dik> thejew makes alana look like a nice young lady
|<-- guest346 has left irc.link-net.org (LinkNet IRC Network)
<CruelHM> annnd he's off
<dik> and alanas a powerwhore
<CruelHM> (I feel some spam on the way)
<CruelHM> that Alana certainly seems to not not be too unvirtuous
<Oranjeboom> No, I'm not. I would though
<CruelHM> it's easy brah
<CruelHM> she strips you fap
<CruelHM> bam!
<Oranjeboom> Jones is nuts
<Oranjeboom> Id have been on that like a dog on heat
<Oranjeboom> in?
<CruelHM> i9 imagine she smells in the crotch region
<CruelHM> Jew is far hotter anyway
<Oranjeboom> so? her tits are awesome
<CruelHM> tits are lumps of fat
<CruelHM> ultimately of no consequence
8 years ago
tisk tisk tisk cruel so fucking sad
8 years ago
What the fuck are you doing?
8 years ago
boy, OJ us just becoming a chat regular isn't he?
8 years ago
That must be a fake OJ.

Chat is for fags.
8 years ago
Have you told Jones of these feelings?
8 years ago
Goddamn chat is fucking gay.
8 years ago
shut up and go drink some jism
8 years ago
drum says: I'm a fat lump of Playdoh, and am butthurt coz Phelsu got 'my chick' Exoticshittykitty...now I gotta go back to drugging preteens...and I STILL can't get any
8 years ago
...bounce Sir Chunkalot, bounce
8 years ago
(unless you want me to post that convo you had with 'me' where you tried to get frisky...you dumb jell-o mound)
8 years ago
^*desperately wants convo
8 years ago
if it wasn't for america this cartoon would be in german.
8 years ago
why do you keep saying the same dumb shit? I have no problems with german people. especially german goo girls.
8 years ago
Shut the fuck up.
8 years ago
'cause in the US, it's true, enbeezy.
8 years ago
Third Reich cartoons?
8 years ago
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