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The Doctor Is In

America's health care has started!

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by toolman961

submitted December 28th 2009

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The Doctor Is In
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of all the people on the site that should be for universal healthcare, it's toolman... then his wife would get all the medical stuff she needs. i find it so odd that he seems to be the strongest against it, especially after all the insurance bullshit he's gone through
8 years ago
dramatic prairie dog
8 years ago
WHAMMY!
8 years ago
It seemed appropriate.
8 years ago
It's because most Americans are illogical plebs who just regurgitate the crap from Fox 'News' without understanding any of it.
8 years ago
because so many bums would start crowding the hospitals complaining about their booboos that his wife would get less attention and thus, not "all the medical stuff she needs".
8 years ago
You're a dumbass
8 years ago
Sorry I'm late. Went to see my Granddaughter yesterday for the first time in Springfield Ohio.

I only posted this picture because I think it's funny. Not because of my political views. I don't discuss that with anyone. I love to sit back and watch you all try and change each others beliefs and call each other names. But I will say this. The people who are paying for health care now will no longer be able to pay their premiums and have to go on the reformed plan themselves because of the way they're trying to pay for it. That's all I'm going to say.

I wish I had help right now and could take care of her the way she needs it. Oh wait, I have a better idea. I want to get this sick tatoo and if you all donate to the cause, I'll get it and post it on MS...
8 years ago
fat chance getting money out of these jobless bastards who still live in their mom's basement.
8 years ago
How much toolman?
8 years ago
if it's an MS-related tat, i'm in...send to where?
8 years ago
just clicking this link made my iq drop.
8 years ago
lol, ironic
8 years ago
You can't have a negative IQ.
8 years ago
He's right, though. This pic is super stupid.
8 years ago
i never claimed to be smart :P..

8 years ago
goddamn americans are selfish, its like theres no sense of community here, everyones so obsessed with what makes us different they cant realize that we all need healthcare

oh well the related box has fox talking about the obamas' fist bump so im gonna go watch that, you have fun dying while waiting for your hmo to aprove your treatment
8 years ago
one of the very few reasons i like germany
8 years ago
that and the lack of jews?
8 years ago
...their still there, as fertilizer...
8 years ago
*gasp*
Don't talk shitty about the Jews.
8 years ago
...did you ever stop to realize how green the grass is at all those old concentration camps?...
8 years ago
hey Blowjack,you want healthcare?..go fuckin buy it then you bleeding cuntbag..dont make me pay even more in taxes so your worthless ass can get his add-a-dick-tome opperation.
8 years ago
yeah ... pay for it privately like BillyMay did
8 years ago
billy mays was a selfish dick, if you watch that show pitchmen or w/e it was hes a dick to that australian guy

and my job gives me kaiser, i havent had any problems with them yet but its not just about me its about the other 200 something million citizens in this country, maybe you should think about them too
8 years ago
Billmay only thinks about the next guy he has to blow
8 years ago
So many idiots, so many incorrect assumptions, so many people paying for health care anyway, so many claims denied, so many organisations getting very rich off the back of it.
8 years ago
Hey Kojach if you're so worried about everyone else then how about you go donate some blood right now and make an appointment to have one of your lungs and kidneys given to the needy?
8 years ago
Because that takes effort .... whereas allowing universal healthcare doesn't..
8 years ago
Cheeky the price of health care in America is the reason we come up with new equipment and the reason new drugs are developed. Goddamn just about everything developed, discovered, or cured in the last 30 years was by Americans or for Americans. All those new drugs and new equipment you guys use was practical to invent only because Americans would pay top dollar for it. Every time you save money by substituting a new drug for an old surgery, your system is getting a subsidy from us. We're like the racetrack where the risks are taken and the technology is advanced, and the rest of the world is just the fucking mainstream street. You're like a bunch of fags enjoying your BMW with AWD and paddle shifters and shit and then bashing car companies for wasting money on race programs. What we do trickles down to you just like the racing and rally technology ends up in passenger cars.

Once that's over the world will be all leeches and no seeders.
8 years ago
Of the biggest 10 drug companies in the world 5 are based in Europe. It's about equal in the subsidy stakes.
8 years ago
Actually I think it may be 6
8 years ago
Yes but check how development shifted to the US as Europe started limiting prescription drug prices. France's industry in particular was fucked while we picked up the slack.
8 years ago
Plus Europe once had the advantage of being able to do free human trails on jews for a few years.
8 years ago
You lot had the natives for that.
8 years ago
*blacks
8 years ago
Wanko, that rant was retarded bullshit.

Cheeky, they didn't do with the natives what Mengele did with the stinking fucking Jews*. They just murdered the natives & stole their land.

Of course, we Brits tried to help the natives, just not that hard.

*Free Palestine!
8 years ago
Japan is pretty good in the area of medical research, I'm pretty sure, and it has government sponsored health care.
8 years ago
Same as here.
8 years ago
fuck you im using my lungs and kidney, but at least im an organ donor, anyone who isnt is just a douchebag
8 years ago
Japan is really good at taking American patents and putting them into production, but we're the ones doing the invention.

Japan's also good at racking up insane debt levels that makes the US look fiscally responsible and pretending that's sustainable.
8 years ago
Fuck you kojach you're a selfish bastard with no sense of community. You could save the life of a fellow countryman with one of your kidneys. Isn't that the important thing?
8 years ago
I like how things are put in group terms there, "American patents" and "we're the ones doing the inventing", but when it comes to health care, people like you are all 'Every man for himself.'
8 years ago
That's all you got hank? It doesn't even make sense. I was explaining how the political atmosphere in a country drives innovation. Individuals are still better allowed to thrive in the US than in a socialist shithole, and that's why 300 million individuals here are capable of more inventions and discoveries than the remaining 6 billion or so fucks in the rest of the world.

Basically you can't punish success but then expect more of it.
8 years ago
Is what I all I got? What I said was true and government sponsered healthcare only equals "socialist shithole" to morons like you.
8 years ago
Wat I said is true and ur gay. Pwnd!
8 years ago
Grrrrrrrrr. Those dang socialists wanting to give affordable healthcare to everyone! That makes me soooooo angry, arrrrggghhhh!! It's just not The Amurrrican Way!!! *seething*

Lol, fuck off rightwing shitheel.
8 years ago
Giving to some means taking from others.
Put an opt-out in the plan and it's fine.
Otherwise it's morally no different that forcing people to give up kidneys.
8 years ago
Oh wait I forgot... those are actual points. Let me get back to your argument

Grr I'm hank, gimme gimme gimme, everyone should get everything and the magical unicorn government can provide it with fairy dust and we can solve world hunger and all hold hands and then circle jerk as fagkind united.

Lol, fuckoff leftwing cocktoucher.
8 years ago
I supposed the socialized fire departments are morally no different from forcing someone to burn down their house. Lol.
8 years ago
Oh wait, I forgot. Calling my regurgitated meal an actual point makes it filet mignon.

Lol, go soak your head, redneck. You lost and America gets a bit more sane. Suck it. Get the fuck out if you don't like it.
8 years ago
I don't agree with socialized fire departments either. You don't want their services then you shouldn't have to pay for everyone who does.
8 years ago
Hey, some people can't get car insurance, we should socialize that too.
8 years ago
Hey, give me some more examples, pardner. I find your ideas so fascinating.

How about, "Socialized police departments are like forcing people to rob themselves"? Is that one of yours, too?
8 years ago
Yeah, let's socialize car insurance, and motorcycle insurance, and bicycle insurance, and baby stroller insurance, and shoe insurance, and finally foot insurance in case all those lazy people with no jobs who want me to pay for all their shit stub their toe on the way to the fridge to get a beer while I'm out working hard and being a true-blue American.

Oh wait, No, that's just Wanko's 'go to' stupid bullshit argument, reductio ad absurdum. It's bound to come out eventually. May as well try to cut 'er off at the pass.
8 years ago
Well, get back to me on that, ok?
8 years ago
My example actually made sense though.
If it is right for government to take the money of some people to give it to others, then isn't it right for them to take a kidney from one person and give it to another? Why not? Where is the line?

Hank you're the one that argued that there were no races because there was no clean definition. Well I'm saying there is no point where taking from one person to give to another becomes morally right, whether it is organs or merely money. It is theft and it is wrong.
8 years ago
Hahaha! Your example made sense like shit. People do some things communely, because some things are best done communely.

"Oh, sorry my house is burning next to yours. I've opted out of the fire dept. service."

"It is theft and it is wrong." Hahahahahahahahaahahahah! What a fucking crybaby! YOU LIVE IN A SOCIETY, YOU STUPID FUCK! A SOCIAL GROUP! YOUR INDIVIDUALISM HAS FUCKING LIMITS!

As I said before, if you don't like it get the fuck out. Same fucking shit you used to say now turned back on you. Go find a country more to your liking, asswipe.
8 years ago
So it's not theft or theft is not wrong?
8 years ago
You keep cheering it on so I want to understand what makes it ok to take things by force from people.
8 years ago
Also I wonder if you even understand that the new health bill involves forcing everyone to purchase health insurance from a private company, to avoid a fine being levied by the IRS? It boggles my mind that anyone can be so fucking stupid as to think that's a step in the right direction.
8 years ago
Oh, you want to understand? LOL, you are a fucking liar.

I'm gonna go with it's not theft. In a society, some resources are shared communally. That includes financial resources for the maintenance of public roads, buildngs, etc...and anything else that society decides on. Yeah, it sucks to be in the minority opinion, but oh well.

Your absurdly idealistic concept of no taxes and everything being completely voluntary seems unworkable to me, to say the least. Lol.

The thing that always strikes me about this debate is the me, me, me focus of your thinking. You are like a petulant child, pouting and saying "I don't wanna share!" I don't see any sense of duty or responsibility to the group.

8 years ago
You will come back with, "So, if it's the majority stealing from the minority it's not theft?"

I'll leave that one for someone else.
8 years ago
Sorry for interrupting hank, but don't forget the patriotic warmongering part. Paying for health care is bad, but war is fine.
8 years ago
I wonder if a better bill couldn't have been made, if people like you weren't fighting tooth and nail against it?

As far as I'm concerned, if it's fucked up it's on your side, Mr. Me.
8 years ago
No, health care is good. Warmongering is bad.

Republicans love military spending, though, and they hate social welfare spending.

What a bunch of cunts.
8 years ago
Jones, you interposted there, and yeah, you are right. I doubt Wanko moans nearly as loudly when his taxes are "stolen" for some purpose he agrees with.
8 years ago
Well I was just stating their general opinion, I am all for universal health care, which we have running very successfully here, while still being very effective in developing medicine.
8 years ago
Actually, having an opt-out in there would make that reform pass in a second.
8 years ago
Sure I do, you just have this image in your head that everyone that opposes the health care bill is a war-loving republican. I've said the war was a fucking unjustified waste from the start, and I'll add that Mr. Anti-war VOTED FOR EVERY SINGLE BILL TO FUND THE WAR UP UNTIL THE POINT HE ANNOUNCED HE WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT because you fucktard dems can't get it through your thick skull that everything these fucking actors say is meaningless.

The dems were going on about how private insurance companies are raping everyone for profit and that's why we need the health bill. You know, those same companies the health bill that says EVERYONE MUST NOW BUY PRIVATE INSURANCE from. And you idiots cheer because you don't have a clue what's in the bill you just think Sir Nigsalot is delivering the change he promised. Everyone insured means the end of the cash-only clinics (The only clinics that are priced reasonably!) It means the end of real charity clinics. It means the end of everything the bill is pretending to accomplish. Goddamnit you people are fucking idiots. And don't try to tell me they passed a bill to make things worse because people opposed the one to make things better... in that case you just don't fucking pass a bill!

Oh and the Mayo clinic just announced it's dumping the medicare patients. Yeah it sure looks like this is improving the quality of our health care. Yay for change.
8 years ago
I'd also like to understand how a country that already needs to borrow 3-4 trillion dollars a year expects to pay for all this. Health care is already costing more than the war. Hell the interest payments on the debt alone are costing more than the war. The country borrows billions of dollars a day to pay for the social shit we already demand... fucking billions... The entire amount of the Dubai default is a couple week's worth of borrowing for us.
8 years ago
The elected that fuck in Zimbabwe that took the land of the farmers and has now turned the entire country into a total shithole. I guess it's fine because the majority voted for him.
8 years ago
The political duopoly America is currently afflicted with is terminal. There is nothing we can do short of voting with bullets to change our present course. It's obvious that the special interests & lobbyists are cancerous & bound to kill us. Any moron that can do basic math will tell you that fiscally we have more commitments than we ever could attempt to honor.

Metaphorically, this leaves us in the position of choosing weather we want to pay for heart surgery or brain surgery. Both suck, but if you can put off the other long enough, you might be able to scrounge up the dough to live just long enough to default on the other expense. It's ultimately a lose/lose situation.

Oh yeah, & fuck you hank you cock lover.
8 years ago
The problem is actually worse than just not being able to pay the debt. Even if we acknowledge that the debt can't and won't be paid and pretend that's not a problem, we still are so dependent on borrowing right now that any time china decides to cut us off we're fucked.
8 years ago
(That equals more than 1 billion dollars a day in loans from the evil communist empire we spent the other zillion dollars trying to defend ourselves against)

8 years ago
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8 years ago
so muslims practise witchdoctory then
8 years ago
He's not Muslim. How many times do you need to be told that?
8 years ago
loads of times buddy
8 years ago
his father was a muslim so surely he would be too , unless he has be christened...
8 years ago
What's his father got to do with it?
8 years ago
like all good sons he would do as his father told him.
has he public denounced his father ?
8 years ago
considering he's christian, i'm going with he's been christened dumbass
8 years ago
by father i meant god...
8 years ago
so youre saying the only reason anyone is any religion is because their father was? holy shit youre enlightened, now you must understand that all religion is fucking retarded bullshit
8 years ago
Fries is a believer.
8 years ago
yeah... i believe Obama is an undercover muslim
8 years ago
and that is threatening you am i right?
8 years ago
I believe you are.
8 years ago
who me? i am happy without religion
8 years ago
No, 'I believe you are right' is what I meant.
8 years ago
@ fries, Yes stupid they do..
8 years ago
Obama might believe he's a Christian, but he was raised Muslim first. Any practicing Muslim will tell you that makes him an apostate, not a Christian. A lot of those would prescribe death as punishment.
8 years ago
People are free to choose whatever religion they want. If he chooses to be a Christian, that's what he is.

Although, why anyone would choose to believe that stupid bullshit is beyond me.
8 years ago
"Obama might believe he's a Christian, but he was raised Muslim first"

If he was raised to believe Santa was real, would that make him an elf?

That logic is as stupid as identifying yourself a muslim, christian or anything else as pointless.
8 years ago
or what Hank said...
8 years ago
I'm not sure whether you're arguing with my point, or faith in general. All I'm saying is, due to having two fathers who were Muslim, (and attending Muslim school), to a lot of Muslims Obama's a Muslim, period. Every minute he spends claiming otherwise is an affront to those sensibilities.
8 years ago
I thought your point was 'he might think he's a Christian, but since a lot of Muslims don't think so, he isn't.'

If that is your point, I disagree.

My assertion is that 'it is he who determines his own identity, not Muslim people.' It's his choice what to self-identify as and what a bunch of other people think is irrelevent.
8 years ago
whats with the hammer and sickle ? is he russian too
8 years ago
because americans think universal healthcare is socialism which is the same thing as communism, even though they aren't the same thing. but that's what they've been told for years and years... haven't you seen any of the videos about that stuff on here? i know we have a bunch
8 years ago
aside from the fact that following politics is a waste if time, how is this something that is important to me or something that i should give a fuck about? doctors are worthless and i wouldn't take meds if they were given to me for free so how does this affect me any differently than any other stupid thing the gov't does or doesn't do?
8 years ago
Wait until you get sick.
8 years ago
i don't get sick and i would rather die then be old and helpless, barely hanging onto life with the aid of unnatural chemicals and machines. that is a torturous existence that shouldn't qualify as being alive. more like a living nightmare or hell
8 years ago
Everybody gets sick eventually, and who said anything about "barely hanging on to life"? There are loads of things that can be cured by medicine. To say, "i wouldn't take any meds if they were given to me for free" seems naive, to say the least.
8 years ago
i didn't say medicine was useless. i know it can do a lot of things and sometimes man uses it do things that shouldn't be done
8 years ago
how is not taking meds naive? its a personal choice and not just a statement but an action. i am given nexiums for free from a doctor at work but i rarely take them even though they do help. i just don't like the thought of it and never have. there is just something not right about everyone doping themselves out of their mind
8 years ago
Curing a disease and doping yourself out of your mind aren't quite the same thing. I don't know your age, but I'm pretty sure your idealistic way of thinking, as well as your health, is based on your youth. As you get older and start having little problems, I'm betting your thoughts on the matter/actions will change.
8 years ago
i have horrible health and am riddled with inherited diseases but i have no intentions to practicing preventative medicine or relying on medicine to artificially prolong my arduous existence. regardless, that doesn't answer how this affects me now. it is as unimportant to me as all other stupid gov't bullshit
8 years ago
dwhill05 37 minutes ago says:i don't get sick
8 years ago
i said i don't get sick, i didn't say i had perfect health. i can't help it that i'm not a pussy and don't run to the doctor begging to be drugged every time i get a little ache or get pissed off
8 years ago
I'm sorry but "I don't get sick." doesn't seem exactly synonymous with "I am riddled with inherited diseases." Lol. Using medicine as a tool to cure health problems doesn't equal being a pussy, either. Are you a pussy because you use a can opener instead of your finger nails to open a can? I will change my assessment from naive to foolish.
8 years ago
that is great and all, i'm gonna keep enjoying my foolishness and when you come up with why this or any other political topic should matter to me let me know
8 years ago
dw, you're not a soppy fucking Jehovah's Witness, are you?
8 years ago
nope, those ignorant fucks are fun to fuck with though. i don't know much about their crazy ass religion so i can't turn shit around on them and make them eat their own words as easily as i do christians though
8 years ago
Yeah, keep enjoying your "arduous existence". Lol. And, to be honest, I don't really care if "political" topics matter to you or not. Things the government does affect you, whether you bury your head in the sand, or not.
8 years ago
haha thats Christian Science you are thinking of, oranje.
8 years ago
i know they affect me and acknowledged that in my original statement. what good does it do me to follow it and waste time on it? that was the question. if i have no control over what those fat old rich bastards do then what is the point?

bottom line still is that politics is worthless to me and the healthcare crap is no different
8 years ago
don't the JW's refuse blood transfusions and stuff? i know somebody has some stupid ass believes like that
8 years ago
Yes they do.
8 years ago
They don't go to college either. Or vote.
8 years ago
No DW, when you say, "how does this affect me any differently than any other stupid thing the gov't does or doesn't do?", you are implying that it doesn't affect you. And I find it ironic that somebody who thinks "doctors are worthless" and rejects medicine because it's "unnatural chemicals and machines" would call anybody "ignorant fucks" and their beliefs "crazy".

Lol. You sound just like those crazy Christian nutters to me.
8 years ago
i never implied that, you assumed it.
you sound like a crazy christian nutter trying to impose your believes on me and denying all other possible believes or points of view, then implying that since i don't agree with you exactly that i am less intelligent
8 years ago
hill once again displays his dumbassedness.
8 years ago
JW's have the best jokes ever, though...
8 years ago
JW's are pieces of shit.
8 years ago
that is a typical statement from a blind follower rish but i disagree with you, no one has yet to ever give me a straight answer as to why this shit is so important even though they go on and on for hours on end arguing over one point or the other to no avail. its just something else to bitch about and holds no real importance to normal people like me. from my point of view you are the ignorant ones and until you can answer my question you should all consider yourself even more blind and stupid as you are accusing me of being
8 years ago
if you want a spectator sport try something with a little more action and don't kid yourself that being involved is going to help in any way or make a difference, it just means you are extremely boring
8 years ago
lets hear one poss, i'll use it next time one knocks on the door
8 years ago
No DW, with "how does this affect me any differently than any other stupid thing the gov't does or doesn't do?", I don't need to assume anything. "Does or doesn't do" means they both have the same affect, which is none.

Also, I'm not trying to impose my beliefs on you. Nor have I been denying the possibility of other opinions (as if that were even possible). I'm just stating my opinion that rejecting all medical knowledge outright is a foolish and ignorant position to take.
8 years ago
Q: why dont JWs celebrate Christmas?
A: they're jealous!

hahahahaha

(dont mind me - my wife's extended fambly was 90% JW...i know WAY more than i want to about those tards)
8 years ago
does or doesn't do is referring to things they do that some think they shouldn't or don't do that some think they should. each decision has a different affect but my knowledge of said decision or the affects is unnecessary to the outcome of those affects on me. that is my argument

quit flipping out about all that medical crap, i was just messing with you for the most part. i take my nexiums like a good boy cause i get grumpy with i don't sleep well. i do see my grandfather being tortured by modern medicine to prolong his suffering and don't feel like that is an advancement to be proud of
8 years ago
Same here, possum.
8 years ago
hill always says stupid shit and when people call him out on how stupid it was he gets all pedantic and says shit like, "thats not what I said". After someone points out just how stupid he is then he claims he was just trying to annoy the other person. He is also gay.
8 years ago
@urks - yeah even Mormons > JWs
8 years ago
@possum's joke: ...okay, but doesn't that work for all religions that appose or hate christianity?
*feels sorry for poss and urks*
the little i know about them is through distant observation, thankfully
8 years ago
Whunu > JW's.
8 years ago
Jibberish + Flipflopping = I'm done here.
8 years ago
you are a sad little man rish, you also completely don't get me for someone who seems to idealize and follow me religiously
8 years ago
about my "joke"...JWs beleive that somehow they will be reborn as...awww fuck it, i just dont care
8 years ago
then my work here is done, and my superior view of politics remains unchallenged once again
8 years ago
"idealize"?

I don't follow you, I've just seen and called you out on other stupid shit you've said, and I've noticed that its always the same little script you. Just thought I'd point it out.
8 years ago
You don't have to get all mad and start calling me names. I just made an observation, lets move on.
8 years ago
fucks this - it's post time guys
8 years ago
i called you 'rish', is that insulting to you? i called you sad because i come here to entertain myself, at whose or whats expense is my business. if you have nothing to do but worry about what i say all the time then you have a less meaningful life than me
8 years ago
if you know so well my quotes then tell me how many times i have said that i bullshit as much as i tell the truth, if that bothers you maybe you should disconnect for a while
8 years ago
Doesn't bother me. Like i said, I'm just making an obsevation. Sorry if it struck a little too close to home.
8 years ago
lol, that is great that you can connect the dots that i have laid out for you. i don't know how anything you said was 'close to home'. that would be like you getting upset at me calling your avatar green. i fuck with people and bullshit all the time, get over it
8 years ago
hahaha @ Irish calling someone else stupid/gay

8 years ago
What next?

Is fries going to call someone stupid/fat?
8 years ago
Or Oranje call someone buttertoothed/gay?
8 years ago
Buttertoothed?

wtf?

That is why you shouldn't call people stupid, idiot.
8 years ago
Butter alluding to yellow and tooth being singular. Anything else you need help on?
8 years ago
lol Idiot.
8 years ago
I like how you didn't bother disputing the gay part though.
8 years ago
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