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A Voice of Reason

I'd vote for him.

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by Rolandofgilead

submitted September 5th 2009

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When he says right to defend himself that is different from having and owning a gun. Guns suck man, you're so easily dead with those things. I mean they're awesome to shoot, but the fatality of them makes me so nervous.
8 years ago
yep
8 years ago
america has a bad gun problem ..getting ted nugent to talk won't change it
8 years ago
but it's still fun to here the nuge
8 years ago
so things that can kill you scare you? are you afraid of cars? cars kill considerably more people than guns. How about cheeseburgers? heart disease is the number one killer in this country. Just because something is dangerous, or because it can kill someone in the wrong hands doesn't make it bad.
8 years ago
Cigs,alcohol,gay sex
8 years ago
I think people should be allowed to carry nucleur weapons.
8 years ago
everyone should just have a jar of some extremely dangerous biological weapon on them so if they are ever in danger they can smash it for 'protection'
8 years ago
My biological weapon is bean dip.
8 years ago
42Adams you don't see anyone hiding cars in a box in their closet. Don't get your gun righteous panties in a bunch. I said how easy it was to be killed by them. If you forget, that is what guns are for. Killing. I just see it as no one should hurt anyone else but that would never happen. So I don't care what other people do. Have your gun, I don't give a fuck. Just don't come anywhere near me.
8 years ago
Guns would be scary, I suppose, if you grew up in some huge metropolitan area. There were guns in my house as a kid, just a tool like a knife or hammer, only louder and more fun.
8 years ago
*goes to soah's house to rape her with full confidence that there will be no guns to worry about*
8 years ago
Sure bring it. I can still bite your dick off with my vag/anus.
8 years ago
Soah, you seem like a pretty cool/funny person, judging by your posts. Why the sudden fury? There are plenty of gun owners out there whose last thought is to hurt or kill someone. I'm like a big fluffy bunny, but I'd drop someone in an instant who intended to harm me or mine. Open your mind, myaaan.
8 years ago
Nuclear bombs are tools.
8 years ago
b-b-but I was just messing with him. I'm totally open like octomom. I play CoD, I always wanted to shoot guns. They're cool, they're just really scary and dangerous to me that's all. The hair triggers, the fact that a bullet can still be in the chamber without the magazine in, ricochet it's all scaaaary!
8 years ago
But seriously if there were no guns, and someone went to rape me I would stop him the old fashioned way. Tell him I'll make him a sandwich first.
8 years ago
I think people should be allowed to carry hand grenades and rocket launchers. After all, they are just tools. Tools, just like a pitchfork or a mortar and pestle.
8 years ago
*rides a powder keg buoyed by a wave of sarcasm to wherever it takes me
8 years ago
You all know that I carry a gun but in no way do i ever want to pull it out and shoot anyone. That would be horrific. But, I won't allow some demented human being take my life, if I can stop it from happening, because Hank wants more crack and he's all out of money and looking for alternative ways of getting it.
8 years ago
Soah a gunshot is about 40% fatal while a stabbing is 60%, so shouldn't you be more afraid of kitchen knives like the british people are?
8 years ago
Hank in Switizerland you are basically allowed to do what you suggestested and yet they have a lower murder than than your beloved chinky nip country.
8 years ago
either way it'd be ironic if soah got killed in the next day or so
8 years ago
Wanko, you don't need to bother trotting out the 3 or 4 countries where lots of guns doesn't equal lots of shooting deaths. I've seen all your examples before. There are lots of countries where lots of guns equal lots of killings, and it is easier to kill with a gun compared to a knife, so fuck off with your gay percentages wherever you found them.
8 years ago
Have you killed someone with a gun and an knife just to compare?

Seems to me there's a lot of situations where killing with a knife would be a lot easier.

If there are countries with a lot of guns and a lower murder rate, and countries with a lot of guns and a high murder rate, it is absolute proof that a lot of guns don't cause a high murder rate. It's that simple. What part of that don't you get? There's no positive correlation between guns and murders. I'd like to see any evidence to the contrary. Just show me one instance where gun control has lowered the murder rate. Just one. No fucking "well shucks guns is loud so killings is easy" bullshit that you always come up with to go with your gut feeling that gun control must have worked somewhere.
8 years ago
Absolute proof my fucking ass. All that shows is that guns aren't the only factor.

People being killed by guns anywhere, anytime for any reason is a positive correlation between guns and shooting deaths.

As far as it being easier to kill with guns, I'm not talking about the probability of dying from an attack by a gun versus a knife. I'm talking about the difficulty of making the attack itself. The greater the physical distance from your victim, the easier it is, psychologically, to kill him. I got this idea from the book, On Killing by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman. He supported this idea with various sources, etc... I would recommend reading the book. I'm not going to quote it or his soures here.
8 years ago
Hank don't be an idiot. We both know that "guns cause shooting deaths" means as much as "green cars cause green car accidents."

Have guns increased the *murder* rate? No, never, nowhere. No more than having green cars increases overall traffic accidents.

How many people are assassinated from a distance? It might be easier, but who cares? It doesn't fucking happen. It might make a difference in wartime but I don't think they're gonna ban guns in that case to save lives.
8 years ago
If you want someone dead then you are gonna get it done whether there are guns available or not.
8 years ago
Guns increase the murder rate everytime someone is killed by a gun.
8 years ago
BANG! BANG!

Look, I just increased the murder rate.

8 years ago
It's that simple. What don't you get?
8 years ago
Irish, your thinking is always so simplistic.
8 years ago
But usually correct.
8 years ago
You might do well on an elementary school debate team.
8 years ago
He doesn't play well with others.
8 years ago
Every time I crash a blue vehicle into another vehicle I increase the accident rate. Smash Smash. Now let's get rid of blue cars because they cause 20% of the accidents.
8 years ago
Everytime I throw a hand grenade people gets all blowed up. But, it's not the hand grenade's fault. If I really wanted to blow someone up, I could just go get some dynamite or C-4...unless there wasn't any.
8 years ago
Or you could use a homemade explosive out of things that aren't illegal. Just like if you outlaw guns you can still stab someone.
8 years ago
An elementary school debate team would run circles around you, Hank.
8 years ago
I enjoyed that book.
8 years ago
you americans don't find it odd that your violent crime rate and murder rate is extremely high per capita than almost any other non 3rd world country in the world?
8 years ago
No, the reason behind it is that because since we let all these dirtbag immigrants into our country they drive up the crime rate.
8 years ago
Hank I'll say it again... find me one case where gun control has been put in place and the murder rate went down instead of up.

Until then you might as well be saying that we should ban q-tips to lower the murder rate, since you're presenting exactly as much evidence for either point.
8 years ago
UK has a much higher violent crime rate. It's no wonder, with thugs like Fries running around.
8 years ago
Oh my goodness boys! Calm yourselves! Or I'll go get my knife and I'll 60% kill you all.

If the world was remade infinity number of times, guns would still be invented every time. They are to kill PERIOD (except maybe for mcgyver). Sometimes, you gotta to kill something. It happens, whatever! Just don't go prancing around like oh well guns are less dangerous than if aliens came down and.. .SHUT UP! All I'm saying is guns are extremely dangerous, and you're supposed to say "Yes, yes they are."
8 years ago
and no one laughed at my sandwich joke!!!
8 years ago
HA...now STFU
8 years ago
I use my gun to pistol whip bitches that mouth off.
8 years ago
when guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns
8 years ago
Irish, don't you think it would a difference if you could just buy hand grenades v.s. having to make your own explosives? Ease of access is a big factor.

Sure, Wanko, maybe someday I'll care enough about the subject to look into it. And saying we shoud ban q-tips, blah, blah is just more of your typical asinine nonsense. It's common knowledge that guns kill people and q-tips don't.
8 years ago
I think what people are forgetting is that many murders-by-gun are impulse [re]actions; it's much easier to, in a rage, squeeze a trigger a few times at the subject of said rage than it is to approach that subject (and catch it), and stab it to death.

Furthermore, when was the last time somebody threw a handful of knives into a packed nightclub or mass of people in a shopping mall? Knives don't kill bystanders, generally.

Knives also can't commit drive-bys, which are famously effective for 1- dissolving responsibility unto all members within the car, and 2- depersonalizing your victim and making it easier to "send a message".

It's circumstances like these to which the exceeding dangers of guns become more apparent than Blue-cars causing Blue-car accidents and /why/ they cause them.
8 years ago
And for the record, Ted is a fucking idiot.
8 years ago
hahah, nice thread. and its true, guns are outlawed in venezuela, only thugs have guns. and theyr a fucking lot
8 years ago
GAWD - is there ANY place left here, to NOT "reply" to the last comment??
I looked for the FIRST "reply" button...

comment to the video:
AMEN!
8 years ago
new law: no more guns for blacks. voila! US murder rate is now the lowest in recorded history!
8 years ago
PS, for the record, you're a fucking idiot. Instead of all you fucking morons spouting opinion on how what you think will happen like you're fucking experts on the subject how about you look at what happens EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME they introduce gun control. The overall murder rate remains the same or rises. It has never fucking worked. Ever. I challenge any of you to find one single instance where a government (city, state, or national) has increased gun control and seen a decline in homicides.

Hey, guess what, me shitting on your idiotic fag faces will cure your AIDS and syphillis. Yeah, I've tried it 20 times and it's only ever made things worse, but I have a gut feeling that it's actually a great idea. Fucking morons...
8 years ago
Good thing you said "for the record" there or your comment wouldn't have been recorded.

How many times is every single time? Don't you always rehash the same 4 or 5 examples? Excuse me, Smith and Wanko, but I don't think that few results is even remotely close to conclusive.
8 years ago
shut up little boring man. wankos exaple was funny
8 years ago
smith and wanko? fukin loser
8 years ago
I agree Wanko. If everyone carried a gun, the murder rate would go down because the criminals would be scared to rob you knowing that they might be shot.
8 years ago
Fuck off ElPussy, you AIDS infected junkie cheerleader. You are less than nothing.
8 years ago
No, Woolman, because if you pulled your gun first you'd win. Didn't everyone carry guns in the wild, wild, west? I guess there were no shootings and murders 'cause everyone was so scared, you fucking idjit.
8 years ago
How many times do I have to shit on someone's face and not have it cure aids before you believe that shitting on faces doesn't cure aids?

The three recent country examples are Canada, the UK, and Austrialia.

If there was one exception, where this shit actually had worked, it would be all over the fucking pro-gun-control websites. Instead they're left spouting off bullshit like you about how there's fewer shootings when there are no guns.
8 years ago
3 is nothing near conclusive.
8 years ago
Fine, I'll shit on your face four times and we'll figure out if it works.

Show me one time where it worked.

Washington is a good state example of another time it didn't work.

It's only been tried in so many place in the last few decades. Every time it doesn't work. There is no counterexample in recent history. No one has ever shown me a counterexample ever.
8 years ago
You're more of an idiot then I imagined Spank. Things have changed immensely since those days. And yes there were still murders. But people would think twice before committing a crime against someone else now if they knew that other person was carrying.
8 years ago
the little man has been pwnd bad
8 years ago
You wouldn't shit on my face once, you stupid cunt and if you think your few examples are conclusive, you are a dumbshit. You just want to believe that it's so, so badly.

Woolman, you are the idiot I always knew you were.

ElPussy, go back to getting buttraped by "Nigerian pimps", you little girl. I don't there is anyone on this site that is quite the weak sycophantic pussbag cheerleader that you are. Too bad you can't pwn anyone yourself.
8 years ago
you crying little man?
8 years ago
btw you just whined about some simple spelling mistake i made? take a look at yer comment, mr. english teacher, youre a fucking joke
8 years ago
You should change your name to LordGodKingBoofue or better yet, Mr.Peebaughty, because you sure know more about everything than anybody on this site. Now why don't you go to bed now where you can lay next to your catalog bought wife/Sushiboy and rest, for tomorrow will bring another day. You are such an asshole with a small closed mind.
8 years ago
3 examples of how it doesn't work is still better than no examples of how it does work, Hank. Your entire argument is theory, whereas Wanko's provided several real examples. All you have to respond to that is "You keep repeating the same 4 or 5 scenarios, that's not conclusive". It's a hell of a lot more conclusive than the zero real-life examples you've come up with.

"Maybe someday I'll care anough about the subject to look into it." You sure seem to care enough to keep arguing about it, without any hard evidence to back you up.

Here's my argument: When criminals start carrying grenades and rocket launchers on the streets of Philly, I'll fight for my right to carry them as well, for my own protection. As of now, they don't, but they do carry guns. And no matter how strict of gun control laws we enforce, criminals will ALWAYS get a hold of them, because they're criminals. Just like how illegal drugs will never be gone from the streets, no matter how ridiculously enforced they become. So now, in an effort to be a law abiding citizen, I can't adequately defend myself against these criminals who pose a very real threat to me (anyone who's walked the streets of North Philly after dark knows exactly what I'm talking about) without going through a tremendous amount of litigation bullshit.

You're biased because you live in a very safe country, but frankly at the moment I can't afford to live in a much safer city than where I am now, let alone Japan. Plus I like Philly.

Sure, I wish guns didn't exist at all. Unfortunately, they do. So instead of bitching about gun control, which has been proven several times over to be ineffective, I would rather try and cure the source by lowering crime rate. Thus I support education reform and inner-city improvement budgets. But until my city becomes as crime-free as Japan, which I'll admit is probably never going to happen, I reserve my right to defend myself against those who seek to do harm to others with equal capability.
8 years ago
I apologize for the long-windedness, but I'm sick of reading the constant idiotic arguments on this subject.
8 years ago
Hank my belief is based on evidence whereas yours is based on "oh it's easier to kill someone from a distance" which explains why snipers are such a problem in america.
8 years ago
wait, shitting on faces doesn't cure AIDS? They've tested that? Maybe, now maybe, think, the antibodies if someone beat adds in the future could actually be in the feces and then can be transferred via face! OMG.

Ok let's talk about slavery.
8 years ago
Oh and a couple of things. Why do criminals carry guns in the first place? How would you feel if everyone around you could be concealing a dangerous weapon? You guys forgot about Japan's gun laws. Revenge is the worst thing us humans ever face. If you think more toward "If he has a dangerous weapon, I want one!" and less toward "No one should have access to dangerous weapons" then you'll all just kill yourselves off. Who, fucking, cares. Just agree that all humans are fucking idiots and get over it.
8 years ago
It's just the same old bullshit with these dumbasses.
8 years ago
I'd like to see an actual argument from you on the subject, dumbass.
8 years ago
Soah no one forgot about Japan, they've had virtually zero guns outside the military for hundreds of years and the formal banning of guns in 1958 had no effect on the murder rate. Again, Switzerland has the same low murder rate as Japan yet you can buy any gun you want there.

Hank you wanna come up with something the refute the 'bullshit'? Nope? Didn't think so. You'll just continue to get pwnd epically in every gun thread...
8 years ago
Australia never "banned" guns since they were never allowed in the first place. Only a few select groups were allowed to have handguns, and then in 1997, they weren't /banned/, but rather offered a buy-back incentives program.

And for the record, their gun-related homicide rate /has/ gone down. It was a single-year incident in which the gun-related murder rate went up by 12. 12 people. Across a 4.5 million person state.
(And has since steadily declined.) So fuck off with the Australia claim.
8 years ago
Secondly, the argument that the right to own firearms as a defense is bullshit: In only 2 out of every 1000 cases a crime is reported, is it ever "defended" by the victim using their gun.

Also, Gottlos's rationale that having a gun prevents you from being shot is a logical fallacy as, unless you're publicizing that you have a gun on you, nobody knows you have it—meaning there's no incentive to leave you alone and are still likely to attack (in which case it's too late because you haven't defended yourself from anything: you don't draw weapons on anyone until you've got a reason to).

Oh, and "Approximately 70 percent of the total murders in the U.S. are committed with firearms, versus about 30 percent in Canada.[11]"

And you say gun-bans don't work.

8 years ago
haha teds the man
8 years ago
Be better if he didn't mention god.
8 years ago
who?
8 years ago
You know, the big guy with the white beard that a large percentage of the USA have as an imaginary friend.
8 years ago
Have you ever pulled a cheeseburger on someone in a dark alley? I bet you'd still get a reaction.
8 years ago
"Uncle Ted" Nugent is a PEDOPHILE!

So when she says 'Stars, stripes, guns war, big balls, man hunter!' - Just remember this!

He FUCKS LITTLE GIRLS!

I would beat the little brain from him monkey skull it he showed himself in front of me.

And for those of you new to this site - Im a fuckin' professional rocker.

Nugent IS a pissy pants pussy in person!
8 years ago
TLDNR.
8 years ago
Wang Dang Young Poontang!
8 years ago
Doing teens doesn't make him a pedophile. Unless he is attracted to little kids he isn't one.
8 years ago
Why don't you post the definition of pedophilia for us, ButterFuckYou? Then go back to downloading kiddie porn from Russia, you greasy turd.
8 years ago
Weren't you railing against age of consent laws here not so long ago?
8 years ago
a pedophile is someone that is attracted to prebuscent children. being attracted to teenagers under the age of 18 doesn't make you a pedophile. it is against the law and you will be branded a "sex offender", but it's pretty natural to be attracted to someone that has gone through puberty, has breasts, pubic hair, etc. the legal age in canada was 14 up until recently and last i checked canadians werent necessarily looked upon as being barbaric or anything.
8 years ago
Omfg, I've said the same thing so many fucking times here. Fuck off, you senile cunts. (not you Roland)

8 years ago
Although, Uncle Ted did dip all the way down to 13. That's pretty low.
8 years ago
dik looks barbaric
8 years ago
i am barbaric aren't i
8 years ago
*eats the dog raw
8 years ago
*cock
8 years ago
if he's a pedo how come in the song spaceship cowboy he says "i'm a mother fucker i do declare"
8 years ago
good roland called you out on your hypocrisy little man. was about to do it myself
8 years ago
Nothing hypocritical about it, pussy.
8 years ago
go fuck your son
8 years ago
You're the boy fucker, not me, sicko.
8 years ago
since kids are your same size, youd atomaticly think its ok
8 years ago
Kids are the same size as my cock.

p.s. Learn how to spell, you ignorant fuckhead.
8 years ago
I think we should all carry guns, but why stop there. I say we all drive tanks and armed with nuclear warheads. That way we can defend ourselves. I honestly can't see how that could go wrong. And I am full convinced that only good people would use them and only to stop bad people.
8 years ago
I want to carry a flame thrower and a few vials of anthrax.
8 years ago
I'd also carry a machete to chop off Troutpotato's head.
8 years ago
And ElPussy's.
8 years ago
My baby like to rock
My baby like to roll
My baby like the cock all night
She only 9 years old
She do the Wanko Tango

Wanko Tango
Wanko Tango
Wanko Tango
Ooooh yeah! (oooooh..)
8 years ago
?
8 years ago
Don't play dumb.
8 years ago
Don't tell me what not to play.
8 years ago
Don't play checkers.
8 years ago
7. Ted Nugent

Clownish pedophile who dodged the Vietnam draft. Wishes he could be taken seriously as a muscian, but is stuck playing state fairs.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ted%20nugent&defid=298426

8 years ago
His music does suck.
8 years ago
Anyone who didn't dodge the vietnam draft is a sucker.
8 years ago
Sure. I agree. I'm just bashing dude for the sport of it.
8 years ago
Nugent is a fucking wacko. I'm sure he fits right in down there in Texas with all the rest of the redneck, ignorant, peyote spit-roasted, snake rustlers. Why doesn't Texas just secede allready? Nobody wants them.

http://www.wacotrib.com/opin/content/news/opinion/stories/nugent/03182007_wac_nugent.html
8 years ago
Did I mention that Texas is a steaming pile of shit and everybody living there should die?
8 years ago
No need to confine all the death solely in Texas.
8 years ago
Ok, Texas and England.
8 years ago
Touché
8 years ago
snake rustlers...haha
8 years ago
Hank you disagree with killing someone that repeatedly rapes children? I'm just confused why you'd post that article to say that Nugent is a whacko.
8 years ago
He's a fucking nutter. Sure, let's get vigilante justice by mob rule going, because the mob ALWAYS thinks with a clear head. After the pedo fucker, who's next? Hopefully it's you Wanko, since you approve of the method.
8 years ago
Seems to me he was saying that when the legal system fails consistently then mob rule needs to take over. He's talking about people who were convicted time and time again, and given the opportunity to offend time and time again. Pretty sure he mentioned tougher laws in his article too, so that we don't need to resort to mob rule.
8 years ago
He was advocating vigilantiism. He did have a short thing about strengthening an existing law, but the rest of the article...

Seems like the "wild west" needs to be tamed again. Stupid ass rednecks are still playing cowboys and indians.
8 years ago
Don't tell the rednecks what not to play.
8 years ago
I'll tell them whatever I want. Move along.
8 years ago
Who would you rather hang out with, Nugent or Franken? Be honest.
8 years ago
Neither. Boring and crazy. I'll pass.
8 years ago
He whistles while he speaks. :/
8 years ago
I know right!! He should use his guns to shoot all his teeth out.
8 years ago
Sometimes I whistle while I work, but I don't work no more.
8 years ago
I hate people that whistle.
8 years ago
hahaha
8 years ago
that's why i was glad at the end of snow white when all those fucking dwarves were killed......
8 years ago
wait that might have been "platoon"
8 years ago
That was my birthday.
8 years ago
Unfortunately, you lived.
8 years ago
i laughed when he started talking about pedophiles.
8 years ago
KILL ALL PEDOPHILES!!!!!!
8 years ago
man, youre one spammy closet homo
8 years ago
Doesn't concern you, fuckface, go o.d. while getting your ass reamed out by "Nigerian pimps".
8 years ago
he's not weird. he's fucked up.
8 years ago
You americans *shakes head*
8 years ago
"I find that unacceptable and I don’t accept it."
8 years ago
The only thing I have to say is if the American Government takes all our registered guns away, the only ones left with guns will be the criminals. And don't think for a minute that if someone wants a gun on the street, there will be pleny of them to buy from the same smugglers that are bringing the dope in.
8 years ago
Once handguns are banned they'll make a law for you to register all long-arms. Then your house will be broken into because somehow the Hell's Angels managed to steal a copy of that list or bribe one for themselves and are going around stealing the fucking things. Not that that's happened anywhere...
8 years ago
Don't all guns have to be registered already?
8 years ago
This happened in Canada where they didn't require you to register your rifles until a few years ago.
8 years ago
Yes Hank, they most certainly do.
8 years ago
But if you buy one from Big Black Tyrone, it's not registered to you.
8 years ago
As soon as I recognized the nut in the screen shot of this vid, I knew which nut submitted it...

Yeah, why is there a debate? It's so preposterous. It's so hard to understand that you don't live in a vacuum and that guns made available to you are also made available to others. This idiot talks as if it's still 1780 and we all live in disconnected log cabins rather than highly populated urban and suburban areas.

Typical right-wing nut (redundant, I know), though... It's all about "me" and no one else exists. Whenever you hear a right-winger going on about anything, notice how it's ALWAYS merely a search for a defense of selfishness.
8 years ago
As opposed to a left winger, who feels he owes a debt to everyone and he's gonna pay it using everyone else's money.
8 years ago
Left wingers are the idiots you get partnered up with in high school, where you do all the work on a project because they're too fucking useless to get anything rigt, then when you get the A+ they praise teamwork.
8 years ago
Oh, we're going back to high school now. What a twat.
8 years ago
Highschool was the best 7 years of your life.
8 years ago
Tired Guy, wings are best left to sports bars and airplanes, and you're confusing selfishness with self reliance. If there's anything else you need cleared up, just ask, I'd be happy to oblige.
8 years ago
Sure, your mother was still breastfeeding me.
8 years ago
That wasn't my mother.
8 years ago
Your father has some nice breasts then.
8 years ago
Those weren't breasts, he just had nipples tattooed to his ass cheeks.
8 years ago
In fairness, it's only because he got a gift certificate for two free tattoos.
8 years ago
Fooled me once, shame on you...
8 years ago
wow, american healthcare and social system, gun laws and nigger jokes, those are the great mucho themes, always. post anything that falls into either of these categories and watch the dumbfuck comments go into the triple digits!....you guys....really....
8 years ago
STFU nigger.
8 years ago
go ahead, wanks, prove me right!
8 years ago
hahaha....
8 years ago
I'll just wait in anticipation of Wanko's rage....
8 years ago
Nigger go fuck off to your nigger country and see how much jail time you get for saying that only 5,999,999 niggerjews died in the holocaust.
8 years ago
Feel better?
8 years ago
Moderately.
8 years ago
Good. Were up to 89.
8 years ago
ya, me too...

*shivers*
8 years ago
My only regret is not calling it a "niggerholocaust".
8 years ago
'Cause that would have been so funny.
8 years ago
aah, finally 115!!!

wanks, your idiocy is astonishing.
8 years ago
This brand of high brow humor has no place here.
8 years ago
I agree with Nugent on the case that he makes regarding the right to defend himself, however I am somewhat irritated with all these guys running to the second amendment to support their argument. If one really takes a close look at the second amendment and why it was drafted, they'll realize that it's a highly outdated and obsolete amendment.

Having said that, I wouldn't think twice about shooting someone with my 12-gauge if they broke into my home and proved a threat to me.
8 years ago
Yeah well despite whatever you think it's still part of the constitution. If they want it gone, they'll have to go through the same process they'd have to to get rid of other parts of the bill of rights.
8 years ago
Now that I think about it, several of our amendments could stand to be rewritten
8 years ago
I don't think guns are mentioned in the second amendment. Btw, Wank, what militia are you in? That was the purpose for keeping arms, wasn't it?
8 years ago
Gun-prohibitionists constantly argue that the Second Amendment guarantees only a right of States to maintain militias. In doing so, they ignore not only the plain text of the Constitution and Bill of Rights, but numerous opinions in which the United States Supreme Court has spoken of the right to keep and bear arms as an individual right.
8 years ago
Sure, arms like bazookas or like pepper spray?
8 years ago
Bearing arms was the militia, it was the slang at the time for being a member. Keeping arms was the private right to have a gun.

As natass said, supreme court has ruled several times that keeping arms is an individual right.

Also the intent of the amendment is clear from the writings of Jefferson at the time.
8 years ago
Doesn't say anything about guns. Are interpreting the 2nd amendment now? Isn't that what you accuse the prohibitionists of? Btw, what militia are you in? You forgot to mention that.
8 years ago
I have the right to be in a milita which I choose not to exercise. I also have the right to keep arms.

If I joined a militia it would be your mom's pussy posse.
8 years ago
Are you trying to argue that a guns don't qualify as "arms"? In that case you're just a moron.
8 years ago
I'm sure they meant we could keep the upper limbs of humans and animals, not weapons.
8 years ago
If you think that's what I'm trying to argue then it's you who's the moron, not I.

Arms just means weapons. Lots of things are arms. Stinger missiles for example. Do you think everyone should have stinger missiles? Clearly, there must be some limits to what everyone is allowed to have. Arms could just as easily mean less-than-lethal weapons like tazers, stun guns, pepper sprays, etc... that would work fine for personal defense.
8 years ago
Those are all very good lines of defense Hank, but like Nudgent said, the guy on parole who was out and beat the lady in front of her grandkids. Do you want this person on the streets when obviously the penal system fails miserably.
8 years ago
my penile system never fails.
8 years ago
Actually it can't mean that, it has to do with legal inclusion and exclusion. They say "arms" without listing exclusions. You can either take it as the common meaning of the time (guns) or as weapons in general. If it means weapons then there's no exclusions or exceptions listed and as such Americans have the right to own stinger missiles. I don't see how that matters as 99% of people couldn't afford one anyway.

Either way, guns are in.
8 years ago
In your opinion.

There are already weapons that people are prohibited from having. It's, theoretically, a simple step to include one more, guns.
8 years ago
It's written in black and white (faded to yellow and brown). There's no opinion involved.
8 years ago
The fact remains the only reason guns even exist is for killing purposes .
8 years ago
Skeet shooting.
8 years ago
quick-draw contests
8 years ago
suicide..
ohwait.
8 years ago
compensating for a small weiner
8 years ago
Yak hunting.
8 years ago
john woo movies
8 years ago
Irish is a tool.
8 years ago
First, TWIG, you have totally rockin' tits.

Second, Hank & Friends, when talking about gun violence, it's important to distinguish between "gun-related death" and "gun-related homicide." According to the U.S. Dept. of Justice, SUICIDE accounted for almost half of all "gun-related deaths" from 2004 to 2007. Of the gun-related HOMICIDES, gangs and drug-traffickers accounted for a significant percentage. And, generally, these people kill each other.
8 years ago
Reply fail, you fuck nugget.
8 years ago
End the war on drugs and the gun related homicide rate would go down. Of course, Americans aren't smart enough to figure that out.
8 years ago
If you were elected to a position where you could end the war on drugs, would you be able to do it? An industry with revenues into the hundreds of billions of dollars... you think you can destroy that and not get yourself shot?
8 years ago
Your question is contradictory. "you could end it, but would you be able to end it"?

If I could, obviously I would be able.
8 years ago
You have the power to end it. Are you going to end if even if it means you die and your family dies?
8 years ago
Maybe.

None of your fucking business either way.
8 years ago
I'm just saying, a lot of Americans have figured it out, but there are further roadblocks.
8 years ago
One more thought:

If you go just by the examples he uses, Nug' isn't debating "the right to bear arms"; he's debating so-called "concealed carry" legislation.

The two women he talks about are allowed to own firearms; the question is whether their respective states allow them to carry a handgun under their clothing, in their purses or in their cars.
8 years ago
One more thought:

You can't figure out how to use the fucking reply button, but I bet you own several guns. Think about that, gerbilthermos.
8 years ago
GerbilThermos! Hahaha, I don't care who ya are. That's funny right there.
8 years ago
Aint that america.. :D
8 years ago
recover password