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Deadly Venomous Bite

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submitted January 28th 2007

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The one where he shoots the thing under the bridge is awesome, you can see the missile the whole time!
11 years ago
And WHO THE FUCK IS MUSTANG!?
11 years ago
Yeah that guy has sure filmed a lot of stuff.
11 years ago
"Mustang" sounds like a gay porn star to me.
11 years ago
I wouldn't want to fight the USA. That's why I live here. All you europeans and pussy canadians can talk all the smack you want. You can hate us all you want.

Just know that when the shit hits the fan, we'll back your sorry asses up and take names for you.

*ptooi*
11 years ago
You have got to be kidding me. It's retards such as yourself that should have been in the Twin Towers. It's unwarranted arrogance and historical ignorance that contributed to the attacks of 9-11-01. Don't mention the supposed European dependence on the United States during WWII you moron. The deciding factors in that war where Hitler's mistakes and Russia's calculated perseverance on the eastern front. Americans started combat in Europe LAST and relatively LATE in the war!
Vietnam, sure got that one covered too. America couldn't run a surgical Vietnam Campaign because the Brass wanted to fight WWII again. It wasn't a conventional war, but most insisted on fight it as such! One of the few saving graces of that war was Col. Hackworth who recognized the situation for what it was, adapted his tactics to fight an insurgent/guerilla war, and thunderfucked VeitCong and NVA ass all over the Delta!! David Galula wrote a very precise doctrine concerning Counterinsurgency Warfare way the fuck back in 1964!!!!! The current administration finally fucking realized what we are dealing with in Iraq almost 2 years into the god damned war!!! In April 1991, now Vice President, Cheney denounced US military action in Iraq because, and I quote, "...Iraq would literally be a quagmire...I don not think the United States wants to have U.S. military forces accept casualties and accept the responsibility of trying to govern Iraq. I think it makes no sense at all." Give that mother fucker a crystal god damned ball. He nailed it right on the fucking head, and yet, look at us now moron!!! The administration can't even listen to it's own advice.
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You think the world wants to depend on the U.S. for military support...go see the world mother fucker before you start making diluted patriotic assumptions about what they would want!!!
Go pick up a book at some point you half wit, dumbed down, mentally deficient John Wayne on Meth!!!!!!!!! FUCK
11 years ago
I think you want a brownie. Here ya gooooooo.
11 years ago
Thanks, are they special brownies? I'm sorry, but I can let blatant ignorance go unchecked. That's one of the many reasons that America's reputation is so tarnished, and I love my country.
11 years ago
^^^ Sure ya do... Forget all that other dreck stuff, you had me at, "... I love my contry." *pfft yah right*
11 years ago
No offence, but I didn't really understand what you said there. I do love the U.S., but I can't stand our fucking government leadership, foreign policy, and general ignorance amongst the population.
11 years ago
legaldick, You make it sound as if the US did nothing in WWII, you retard slut whore.
11 years ago
Hey legaldick GET THE FUCK OUT THEN! Then you will get your wish and not have to listen to our governments leadership. You would also be getting rid of this so called ignorance when your IGNORANT ASS leaves. DOUCHE BAG
11 years ago
Is that what I said? Is it? The loss of life was catastrophic for the US troops and it wasn't in vain. However, to keep proprosing that the world should or may have to rely on the US to police the world is fucking retarded(which is what Corporal Penisment was doing up there).
Now, if you're going to come at me with ill-composed insinutaions such as what you just did, moron, then you had better be specific. As you can tell, I'm specific, and WWII was a big fucking war. I said that the deciding factors were Hitler's mistakes and Russian actions on the Eastern Front. If Hitler had remained allied with Russia, the European theatre of WWII would have been much more devastating for the allies. Hitler had to defend 3 fronts;East, West and the Mediterranean. How hard exactly do you think he would have kicked our asses had Germany and Russia remained allied and consolidated their war efforts?? It would have been catastrophic for the Allies. Pay attention next time Captain Cuntrott, and take the time to educate your self!! I served my country, and I'm re-enlisting. I know what sacrifice means, so if you come at me again you had better have your shit squared away bitch!
11 years ago
Stephen, are you retarded. Complaining about and protesting the government and leadership is a right that we have in this country. Look it up dumbass. Maybe you would prefer to deny yourself that right, but personally I'm no sheep. I fight for what want, and if you want to lay on the tracks and wait for our country's leadership to stick you in big sandy meat grinder the fine. The one's that fight for what they want will govern this country and when you complain we can tell you to Shut The Fuck Up Or Leave! Get your reasoning in order you fucking 10 watt bulb!!
11 years ago
The PNAC says "whats good for the US is good for the world"..hmm world governance..sound like fun to anyone?
11 years ago
I wasn't saying you were wrong about Hitler or about the eastern front. I was just saying you weren't giving the US much credit for the things they did. I'm not agreeing with these other retarded babies who are saying Europe is dependent on America. I wasn't being specific I'll admit to that but neither were you. If you had mentioned that whole catastrophic loss of life bit in your first response, maybe you wouldn't have been called a slut whore. And you didn't have to ramble on like this is history class, I know what the different fronts were you cunt.
11 years ago
Keefbox, That's part of why terrorism is directed at America. Extremists view America as a hyper-imperialist. Go read "In The Rose Garden of The Martyrs" Pretty deep book with tons of insight.
11 years ago
WOW you really told me!!! Its my right to say GET THE FUCK OUT. Or try to be the next President. IF you arent going to do one or the other just STFU because there isnt shit your dumbass can do about it. What I said isnt being a sheep its realizing there isnt a damn thing me or you can do about!!! So stop whining like a little bitch and be grateful for what you got.
11 years ago
Why the fuck are you pissed about me not gratuitously mentioning American loss of life? America deserves no more recognition than England, who by the way dealt with Hilter's crazy ass longer than the US had to. Give the scone munchers their gratuitous reach around too fool. Learn the history of America, and don't blindly accept the myth of America!
11 years ago
Stephen, you've read me completely wrong. You may feel because you serve our country that gives your opinion some defining credibility. That's not necesarrily true, and that goes for me too. I've presented fact, and you've presented yourself as a pissed off little child that doesn't want to play with someone. You need to learn a bit more about what I'm discussing before you engage me in conversation, if that's what you want to call it.
11 years ago
finaly i reached the end huh now i can say what you said waaayy up there.........quagmire is a guy from family guy hahahaha.
11 years ago
I wasn't pissed either. You're the one ranting like you've menstruating horribly for the past 2 weeks. And yes I am aware of what Britain did, such as the victory of the RAF over the German Lutwaffe in the Battle of Britain, preventing a German invasion. And also the campaign in Northern Africa, which led to the invasion of Italy. But Britain was pretty beat up before the US came in, to secure the western front. And the US also practically did everything in the Pacific Theater. There look at me I can provide historical evidence to make my point, aren't I smart now that I just made this fucking history class.
11 years ago
Yeah, one of my favorites, Kill Face is first on my list though.
11 years ago
Amazon only gives it 3 stars and it looks like its the account of a foreigner living and being accepted in Iran..What did that have to do with world governance? Or is there references in the book that I just have to read? Cause I'm kind of in the middle of this Daniel Pinchbeck book and I really don't want to start another one before this one is finished..And then there's that damn Tess Gerritsen book. Yeah tess Gerritsen..So?
11 years ago
Of course the US did everything in the Pacific moron. The Japanese didn't attack us in Greenland.
11 years ago
Yeah.. You could say its because I serve my country. Most people here know that I do. They also know when I see theres comments that I dont like about America Im always there to defend my coutry. Being a sheep or whatever is me just being loyal to my country REGARDLESS. Im not saying we do everything right by no means. If you want to call me a sheep simply because I serve and love my Country and believe in what we are doing so be it. Im out goodnite peps
11 years ago
This argument is going nowhere, so to end this pointless shit I will have to let out a sufficient SIEG HEIL! ARBEIT MACHT FREI! DAS ES NOT EINE BOOBIE!
11 years ago
Oh yeah and that helicopter is pretty cool.
11 years ago
First, Keefbox it's just very detailed, and another is "Why Do People Hate America?"


Now, for you Stephen. It is your god damned responsiblity and duty as a United States Citizen to question what your government thinks is best for you!! Maybe I'm being an Idealist, but isn't that what "We The People" want, an Ideal American Government?? Secondly, Questioning your government does not question your loyalty to your nation. Not questioning your government makes someone a sheep. Following blindly is what cult members and totalitarian subjugates are resigned to. Remember that asking what is best for America is part of being a good American. You're a fucking soldier. The first Prsident was a fucking soldier too. Don't tell me there's nothing one person can or can't do.
11 years ago
OOOOO CANADA! WE CAN'T HEAR YOUUUU!! LA LA LAAAA!!! LLAAA LAAA LAAA LAAAAAAA!!!!
11 years ago
Here's the reality of any institution you want to argue about: There will always be people to fuck things up. Pure capitalism: great idea, but people fucked it up. Communism: nice in theory, but impractical because people fuck it up. US government? Great setup, bad execution. Christianity? Run by people, altered by more people. Islam? Run by people, altered by more people. PETA, human rights organization, environmentalist groups, religion, government, commerce, even fucking schools.

There is no cause so noble it will not attract an asshole.
11 years ago
So true...
11 years ago
Smerf, you're right(on each point too, bonus), and that's one of the reasons it's important to question the system...to keep the attracted assholes in check! This is the sad reality that we have been fated to fuckin deal with. Corruption can't be rectified with stagnant ignorance veiling current affairs.
11 years ago
legal- I agree with about 50% of what you said. The rest is ignorant bull shit. Yes, the US government is fucked up, we didn't learn shit from Vietnam and there were better ways to deal with Iraq. However, WWII was won by the United States. ANY historical document including those from Germany nad Japan) will support this. As Yamamoto said wen he learned the Pearl Harbor attacks were sucessful- "I am afraid that all we have done is waken a sleeping giant." Yes, they did and the giant was pissed. NO country could mathc the industrial capacity that the US had then. France was done. Russia was on their knees and the UK was having a hell of a time fending of the Luftwaffe. (Which they did with guts and tenacity alone) Yes, Hitler fucked up opening the third front but even then he was kicking the Russian's asses to Moscow. Given that his industrial base was being bombed around the clock while the US was churning out gear with impunity it was only a matter of time before the US might won. All Hitler did by attcking the USSR was significantly speed up the timeline to his defeat. Had he remained allied with the USSR then yes, things would have been different but, given that we developed "the bomb" first and handicapped the German's nuclear program through bombing their heavy water plants, the US would have emerged victorious again. We would have been a hell of a lot more bloodied but we would still come out on top.
11 years ago
did someone call my name? i could swear i heard someone say my name..
11 years ago
while i nudged myself in this conversation, might as well give my opinion. here it goes.. i couldn't write a paragraph on what ever shit america has done in the past, all i know is; people like corporal punishment and stephen the patriot, and their attitude, are the reason why america/americans are so hated by so many people outside the usa. you say you're only acting patriotic, but it's more than that. you want to feel big/important and responsible for the world. you look down upon countries outside the usa. team america, world police, best description evar!
11 years ago
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... muh huh? did someone say something?
11 years ago
woah... google loose change. that's the real 9/11. yeah, i didn't bother to read all the other shit about why America is better/sucks and what not. People are entitles to their opinions.
11 years ago
What the hell, I'll bite. Monkeyfuck, what exactly is bullshit?? I never said that WWII was winable for the allies w/o the US! I could breakdown Hitler's three front battle even further than you, but my vagueness was for expediency and not omission for a purpose. Most seemed to have missed the point of my original discourse and ironically I'm the one being called ignorant! That's laughable. Furthermore, why is it that when someone openly expresses discontentment with or discusses the shortcomings of the government they are instantly branded as "unpatriotic"? That is a fool's assumption. Every president, senator, and congressmember has been discontented with something in their government. Should we lynch them with a rope made of flags? Dumbass!
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Victorious-you obviously got the fucking point. Good for you. That is exactly why they made that damned puppet movie!!
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I would like to thank Monkeyfuck for showing the class the proper technique of missing original messages and bringing nothing to the table. No go sit the fuck down.
11 years ago
then google "screw loose change" it totally destroys everything loose change has to say.
11 years ago
Victorious and you other haters. The only reason why you can say whatever the fuck you want IS because of us. Just remember that.
11 years ago
^that's exactly what i was talking about! thank you, Stephen, for backing up my point.
11 years ago
remember monkeyfuck, being called "ignorant" is reserved for people who are in support of this war and our president. There is a template to follow here. Look how legalD back pedals "Don't mention the supposed European dependence on the United States during WWII you moron." ALso, people view you as "unpatriotic" when your position will ultimatly weaken the USA, and it seems like you dont give a fuck. Yes, do look at history. Even though your "ignorance" (LOL) on the deciding factors that won WWII are many, we still understand your point. Although, it's totally flawed. You said, "Pay attention next time Captain Cuntrott, and take the time to educate your self!!" TO use your br.
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Fuck off Legaldick. You really are ignorant of the facts that won that war. America did come in late, but fuck dude, they sure did help win it. Normandy. Italy. France. Name any number of points and countries they liberated and relieved. Of course we gave Berlin to the Soviets to win because we didnt need the extra loss of life. So fuck off and eat a shit stick you little 12 year old fuck.
11 years ago
I should point this out... This is muchosucko. WHY THE FUCK ARE WE ARGUING THIS HERE?!? It almost goes against all that muchosucko stands for! Tits, beer, funny pictures and disturbing videos.
11 years ago
I'm glad I don't have the time to read all that shit. Just remember that we need to support our leadership unconditionally, question nothing, give up all rights, and pretend we're all happy. Otherwise the terrorists might win and turn the country into a place where we have to support our leadership, question nothing, give up all rights, and pretend we're happy with it.
11 years ago
Oh, sorry, i didnt finish my origional thought. The back pedaling, LegalD said, "Don't mention the supposed European dependence on the United States during WWII you moron." "Supposed"??? really? And then he says later... "I never said that WWII was winable for the allies w/o the US!" No you only said they "supposedly" needed our help. Right. Convincing. Also, I like this sage advice from legalD, " Learn the history of America, and don't blindly accept the myth of America!" Remember guys, America sucks and has done shitty things in it's past, therefore you must not have any pride or be for any action that will protect her in the long run. Pay attention to world opinion because it should ultimatley shape our policy. You see guys, you can love your country, but only if it's politically correct, (and if it's bashing bush.) But if you support the war and bush, then you are a "blind follower." Jesus! Looks like we are going to get ALL of the talking points today from kos kids!
11 years ago
Stephen-you're right, and I've also defended our freedoms through military service so don't throw that caveat in my face!
K-billy-I didn't back pedal, and you failed miserably to back that accusation. Furthermore, I'm eager for your half-assed explanation detailing how my position would weaken the US. The world does NOT want to rely on the US for military backing. Your ignorance is of the world opinion in general. And Berlin, don't imply that it was a unilateral decision by the US not to take Berlin. I suppose Stalin threatening his troops with death upon failure to meet his May Day deadline for propaganda purposes had absolutely nothing to do with it. Sure, America dictated the whole war and everyone just fell in line, right. I never said that the US didn't contribute greatly to the war. The point was: implying that other fully developed nations would still want or need to rely on US backing based on what we did in WWII is a narrow minded and hyper-arrogant arguement. An arguement that adds to the already boiling hate and discontent for America in general. This hate and discontent is one of the root causes of terrorism aimed at America, and we have don't more to foster it than to understand and prevent it!!
Hope to fuck that clears shit up for you because I'm tired of explaining this shit. Imparting awareness to some is like trying to grow plants in concrete!!!
11 years ago
wow, your second bout of oral diarreah didn't reveal anything either. just more half-ass accusations and implications.
11 years ago
American governments and corporations have, over a period of decades, created a bleak global context, a world that makes life difficult, and sometimes impossible, for many cultures and societies. Hatred for America thus ha a deeper mooring; it is located int he imposed and implied inability of other societies and cultures to exist as full and free eitities, to live as they would wish to live. This confinement of cultures is not limited to the domain of politics-it extends into a wider conceptual sphere.
Top 4 reasons people hate America:
1. Making it difficult for people to exist, in economic turns(manipulation of the UN, IMF, WTO, and World Bank)
2. The "first cause" arguement. America implying that all things are caused and solved by America.
3. America relates to the world through circular, ontological logic: because "terrorists" are evil, America is therefore assumed as good and virtuous.
4. America's monopoly on definition; that is taking upon itself to define democracy, justice, freedom, human rights, etc. Implying that the world should just follow America's lead or they are just wrong.

Like I said, people need to understand what drives others to hate America. Understanding and the progression of solutions is not un-patriotic, and it can certainly be done without weakening America's position. Tsun Tsu said know your enemy. Victory is relatively easy...don't provide the enemy with reason to bear arms against you!
11 years ago
You made my point again. Ok, listen to what you are saying here, "... An argument that adds to the already boiling hate and discontent for America in general. This hate and discontent is one of the root causes of terrorism aimed at America, and we have don't more to foster it than to understand and prevent it!!" And you said earlier in your statements, "Furthermore, I'm eager for your half-assed explanation detailing how my position would weaken the US."
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Let me 'splane. Your position that we should care what the world thinks of us actually does hurt us in the long run. Do you think Islamic hatred is only directed at the USofA? If you do, then you truly are lost to reality. The "hate and discontent" aimed for America has been around for a long time ass fuck. It's been directed at the whole "WEST" as well if you had half a brain. For someone who claims to have been in the service, I would have guessed you would have understood this.
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^^I really like that. Anyway, plus, if your country capitulates to the world and makes decisions based upon the claim "we are not liked" then you are truly doomed. We have every right to defend ourselves and yes, invade a country if we feel it necessary. You have a problem with that? Boo hoo. Fucking hate us. I really dont care. When the shit hits the fan, I know just where those people who hate us will turn to when they need the help. Fucking double standards.
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So yes, your position of make everyone happy and dont protect ourselves will hurt us in the end. You know you've been drinking too much cool aid when the real subject of the conversation should be Islam and what it's doing to this world today. Anyway, i have to get going. Nice chatting with you. I will add more I am sure later tonight.
11 years ago
i have to agree with dick on alot of his points. i think it was bill hicks that said, the war in iraq "first one" wasnt a war, cos a war consists of two armies fighting. the brits and all the original combatants of the world wars are the only one who have truely participated in a war. the american army is no more than a school bully that picks on the little kids. they have never fought anyone who was actually capable of fighing back.
notice how koreas all like "yay look we gots nukes" and america dosnt care. why? cos korea would kick their fat asses back to the stone age thats why. one missile touches korean turf and the chinese would get involved. and china still has the largest army in the world. yes thats right CHINA NOT USA!!!
considering the amount of places troops could land in the us the war would be very quick. then bush features would be begging the UN for support.
11 years ago
oh, nice "four reasons" banter. Too bad i dont have time to counter that, gotta go!
11 years ago
but i can say this, it's too bad you feel that way about america. But it makes total sense.
11 years ago
oh, makes total sense to why you are a fucktard i mean...
11 years ago
Isn't government leadership an oxymoron nowadays?
11 years ago
I am fully aware of the scope of hatred. I never postured a position of "make everyone happy and dont protect ourselves".
Try not to bring Religion into Politics! The Islamic Extremists and Jihadis have done that and look at what it's lead to. Furthermore, SMERF was dead on when he said "There is no cause so noble it will not attract an asshole." There are assholes in Christianity and Islam, and lack of understanding and open discourse on compounds the fucking problem.
11 years ago
Can't wait to pick this back up this afternoon.
11 years ago
pretty sure el wanko just said it best.(up about 10 posts thanks to your childish asses.) legald, you can't convince k-billy he's wrong about anything, so shut up, and k-billy, you're wrong about everything, so shut up.
11 years ago
Please, don't get this stupid fuck started again, its wearing out my trackball.
11 years ago
Oh yeah! Well, you're a poopy head! (Is that better?)
11 years ago
Again people seem to think that geopolitical problems are solved like a game of Risk. That country looks ready to attack, invade! Problem solved? Look around. This might work in a board game and hell it might have even worked during most of European history but that idea does not fly in this day and age where problems are compartmentalised into individual states for someone to attack. The Richard Armitage description of neo-conservative foreign policy of "look you do what we want, fucker" has not made the problem shrink.

Also on the point of the US fucking the world economy up I take issue with because from the EU to Japan and even Australia, the West isn't playing fair by its <own> rules and lofty principles on issues like trade.
11 years ago
My apologies. *where problems are NOT compartmentalised into individual states for someone to attack.
11 years ago
Who thinks that Chairman? Who thinks that geopolitical problems are solved like a game of risk? Are you talking about me? Why dont you ever say names Chairman? May I ask if you a coward? Ha. Of course you arent. But I would suggest you be the decent gentleman you parade yourself to be and use the names of people to level the answers you have. If you are man enough to do it that is! :P Anyway, my answer to you chairman is: Well, to be quite fair, Saddam had ignored U.N. resolution after resolution going so far as to kick the inspectors out. America was still smarting for a fight with someone after 9/11, and Saddam was just dicking around with our very serious intentions of invading his country if he didnt follow the UN "rules." The weapons were not found. (Of course I think Saddam had plenty of time to get them to another country or bury them.) And of course all the terrorists from Iran and the ones that were in Iraq begin to make it utter hell to deal with setting up a new government. And it dosent help that we have Democrats over here who are complete and utter halfwit cowards who are stabbing our country in the back because the plan isnt going so well. And as I remember CHAIRMAN, it didnt really work out in European history with the 'all peaceful nation of Islam.' In any war you have a thousand different things happening, but it's nice to know if the people on your side are really on your fucking side.
11 years ago
Perhaps I didn't name names because I made no previous connection between you and a board game K-Billy (feel better now?). I simply see that people (and again I'm not making a direct reference to you. If you feel it is then perhaps you can suggest a reason why.) think again and again that in the modern age that this sort of thing can be fixed by attacking/invading/occupying.
My apologies on the European reference, it was more aimed at wars within the continent which even then provided subjugation from anywhere between a few months to hundreds of years.
The plan isn't going so well? It was a shit plan to begin made up by people with either those most perverse sense of optimism (most likely) or a rather unlikely sinister ulterior motive. But it's quite obvious that regardless of cost, the US is obliged to stay and do everything in its power to restore peace.
11 years ago
thank you
11 years ago
hey legal dick. you are a rare thing. an american with a good grip on reality over the world. i dont want to hate on your country but you are so spot on its not even funny. these idiots that disagree with you are only ignorant. chin up dude.
11 years ago
Legaldick, I understand "give your enemy no reason to bear arms against you", that is very good in theroy. But understand that the reason the they have to bear arms against us is that we aren't exactly like them... we allow women to show their ankles in public... for shame. it is the crusades all over again except this time it is the muslims who want to press their beliefs on everyone else, if you ask me we're overly sensitive to them. While we don't have to be the end all be all of the world, we still should do everything that we want to do and have been doing all the time, that's what freedom is, and we should not tolerate those who want to call down jihad on us because we allow our hedonistic ways in this country, freedom of religon also should encompass freedom FROM religion no matter what religion that may be. I served in bosnia afghanistan and iraq, and each time only made me glad that I was born where I was, we need to continue our way of life and these terrorists hate us because we're too liberal... keep that in mind when you make comments against your government, since they are governed by religion they wouldn't allow you to make the same comments on their side as you do on ours, that would just be more heresy and you would be killed for it
11 years ago
Thanks, I'd like to go back through all that shit and count the times someone assumed or insuated that I was "unpatriotic", but I don't want to waste the time. A working knowledge of American/World History would do all of America ALOT of good. I know opinions vary, but damn!! Commonsense and exposure to international media is a must if the American Public wants to change world opinion about itself. And yes, world opinion should be considered because it has a direct relation to Terrorism aimed at America. Terrorism is impossible to eliminate with a show of force, and meeting it with force only punishes the American People and inspires the terrorists. Military casualties, damage to moral, reconstruction efforts, destroyed military assets, foreign relations, escalating fuel cost, etc., etc., etc. Great example: and this isn't said with the purpose of Bush bashing in mind(just makes a great example) Bush championed the "No Child Left Behind Act" , but when the war chest started to empty, he shortchanged the Act by at least $84 Billion!!! The funds went where???? To the war and reconstruciton effort in IRAQ.
I know we have a responsibility to Iraq(since we fucking caused it!!), but depriving Americans like this should be averted in the future god damn it!!
I wouldn't happen overnight, but problems certainly have viable solutions. We just need some of the key issues to get some damn exposure in this country!
11 years ago
"IT" wouldn't happen overnight. sorry
11 years ago
SDC, I'm fully aware of my rights and liberties and I take none for granted. However, your average Muslim could give 2 shits whether you accept Islam or not, or if your wife is or isn't covered. The problems arise with the assholes, the extremists, and they ARE on both sides of the debate.

Additionally, it's somewhat difficult to assess why terrorists REALLY hate us. From what I gathered they seem to have a problem with our government's hipocracy and somewhat narrowminded foreign policies.
And here's your salute for service by the way.
11 years ago
Here's an interesting link about US Intervention.

www.zmag.org/CrisesCurEvts/Interventions.htm
11 years ago
So are you saying legaldick that we should just talk to our enemies and ask them nicely to not blow themselves up in our cities and buildings? That we give them chocolate's in hope that a nuke wont go off in one of our cities? You said that a, "A working knowledge of American/World History would do all of America ALOT of good." Like for instance, the history of Islamic terrorism in accordance with America? Can we point out that it's been getting worse and worse since Carter got us into this whole mess in the first place? Talking to them has not worked. I guess you can say that attacking them is next to impossible. So how would you suggest meeting and defeating this new kind of enemy who will steel away into your community, only to blow himself up later, or worse?
11 years ago
Read "Counterinsurgency Warfare: Theory and Practice" by David Galula. That's a start. Then learn why we've pissed these people off and be creative enough to propose a solution instead of being critical of others that say "we need a better solution"!!

The history of Islamic terrorism in accordance with America??? I agree, it has gotten worse, the shitier our global policies the more violence we see! I'm not saying rock them to sleep and kiss their fucking forehead. I'm saying that America and Islamic Extremists are locked in a self-sustaining perpetual cycle of violence, and that America isn't as innocent as the people using our Flag as a crutch would have us to believe. It is in America's best interest to keep this cycle of violence going because war is money, but the business of war is costing Americans dearly! How many people do you think know about Carter's actions? Or know how those actions lead us right into one of the biggest clusterfucks the world has ever seen?? Not too god damned many. This is the ignorance I was talking about way up in the begining of this thread. American's simply aren't as informed as we should be. If Americans knew more about our foreign policy and our global interactions do you think all of this could've been prevented? It's very likely, but American politics does was is best for American shareholders regardless of the consequences for other nations, and this is one of the major reasons terrorism is directed at the United States. Now, will you drop the stand-offish fear tactic rhetoric and start discussing this with a more open mind? Otherwise, we're just beating a dead fuckin horse here!
11 years ago

If you think just naming a book means you answered my question; I am pretty let down. That's why I trust more in the people who are taking and making these actions. They at least have a goal in mind. But, I guess I should read that book first before we talk about this more.
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"You can swim all day in the Sea of Knowledge and still come out completely dry. Most people do." Norman Juster
11 years ago
More rhetorical bullshit from you!? God damn it bring something to the table!! The number one way to neuter a terrorist is to hinder, disprove, show fault in, and render mute his CAUSE. That's what's in the book, and it is a clearcut systematic and potent process! Jesus Tapdancing Christ on a cracker!!! Now do you see why "knowledgeable ignorance" is so detrimental to Americans?!? Go back through, take in what I've said about MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING, IGNORANCE, AND REASONS FOR HATRED, now, i need you to conceptualize how all this has played together in the big thing called "WORLD". I hope you can do that because I'm done holding your hand you shit.
Go read that fucking book and drop this god damned topic!!!
11 years ago
And that goal K-Billy is talking about, is taking this country to shit creek and break our paddles.
11 years ago
Really legal? Is that how you do it? WOW! If what you say is true, then making a terrorist not a terrorist is just like neutering a cat! Why didn't you say so! It's SOO EASY! Good thing you got that useful knowledge from a book I am sure has had a clear 100% accuracy rate in it's neutering of terrorists! LOL! "HINDER, DISPROVE, SHOW FAULT IN, and RENDER MUTE" Thats some good shit! It's like an AA step by step program. "So hank, what step are we on with terrorist Alu De Jabar today" Hank, "We just got over step THREE! Now we are currently rendering mute his cause! It's so easy I had no idea! We should have tried this years ago Stan!" Please. Bring something to the table that's actually edible to begin with in the first place.
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And Pleep, it's good to know you got out of your haze of pot smoke long enough to make a joke! Good job!
11 years ago
More empty rhetoric...nothing.
11 years ago
it's just mirroring what you say legal. You have nothing to offer either except critisism. You really do have a lot to learn.
11 years ago
I'm sorry, i should have said you really have a lot to learn about the art of pissing people off. Why? Because they are ignorant to begin with and no one is going to listen to each other anyway on a silly site such as this. What are you trying to prove? *Frankenstien voice* US BAD! TERRORIST GOOD! No. Of course you arent. You are just spewing your political drek just hoping for an audience and a chance to see how many people can slobberingly fall at your feet in agrement with you. I just have to laugh because I will think that i am right. And you will think that you are right. Common man. Just have fun. You are not going to convince me! Trust me. That doesnt mean i wont listen though. What, do you think i'm ignorant or something? LOL!
11 years ago
As for the book, trust me, read it. It's required reading for American troops and policy makers in Afghanistan and Iraq and for students of warfare in general. I was paraphrasing in general terms for expediency. Additionally, if my position on this matter is so indefensable, why has the administration put this policy into effect on the Middle Easern battlefield?? You seem to support the fuck out of the current administration so why criticize something wise that they've adopted just I'm the one putting light on it in this particular debate.
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As far as pissing people off, that was never my intention. This abortion of a "debate" seems to have been one sided. I've tried answering your questions, and have done a pretty good job of it only to be met by redundant rhetorical questions. One side's(or person's) decay in a debate is determined by several specific points: 1. Turning argument into an attack aimed solely at the other debater. 2. Offering only criticism instead of relevant response. 3. Calling into question the value and veracity of the debate itself. 4. Calling into question the aptitude and intelligence of the other side.
K-Billy, you've definately spiraled out of the context of a "debate". True, venue could be somewhere else, but this is where it happened. Deal with it. I could care less how many people agree with what I said or how they interpreted some of the facts and events that we brought to attention during the course of the discussion. I don't need people to agree with my interpretation of events in order to make myself feel better. By the way, what did you think I was trying to convince you of? Just curious, because I never set a goal to win hearts or minds. Try not to read it like that, neither of us is running for election. I know some people hate what I say, I can manage that. However, if someone is going to form an opinion I think they need to be as informed as possible and not kept "ignorant" of current events and how history gotten us here.
11 years ago
whatever makes you feel better man. spam on
11 years ago
"There can be no sensible discourse between people as their society collapses due to incomprehension"
Michel de Montaigne
11 years ago
actually it really was a great possiblity hitler could've won the wore if he wasnt so crazed in killing the jews, if you are able to realize how strong the Germans actually were back then, their technology was very superb especially their luftwaffe, Hitler was just too drugged out and more concerned about eradicating the jews from europe, if you dont believe me go back to school
11 years ago
i dont kno if u guys are still taking about that cuz u guys ranted on too long for me to actually read it all
11 years ago
not bad, considering it's a 40yr-old chopper. and i also like the german music that you need to really make this clip worth watching...
11 years ago
do you guys like my new icon ;P
11 years ago
looks good from my house dugdug.
11 years ago
I'm afraid I can't comment on that
11 years ago
it looks like a terminator eyeball.
11 years ago
^oh dear god, you did NOT just say that
11 years ago
^^ Quick cut his oxygen tube!
11 years ago
roozer, are you 16? Stanley Kubrick is rolling over in his grave right now. And yes, I like your new icon.
11 years ago
why is he rolling around?? if he's alive LET'S GET HIM OUT!!
11 years ago
I wonder how many of these hits were "friendly" ?
11 years ago
I wonder why friendlies get in the way.
11 years ago
(News reporter):How can you stand shooting innocent women and children?(chopper pilot)Easy,ya just don't lead them as much...
11 years ago
I done got me 157 dead gooks killed. Plus 50 water buffalo too! Them's all confirmed!
11 years ago
This clip is an abbreviate one. The full length one has been floating around the InterNet for a couple of years and shows a lot more cockpit footage. My favorite scene is the SAM missile they nail. It explodes like a 4th of July firecracker.
11 years ago
Aah, so BF2 did get the gun stuff right... neato.
11 years ago
I hate Condleeza Rice... I hope she dies.
11 years ago
she hates you too. i hope she eats you for dinner.
11 years ago
I'd hit her. She'd fucking take it for a while then get on top and fuck the shit out of you. You can tell by that mean face of hers.
11 years ago
I have a thing for powerful black gapped toothed women. mmmhmmm...
11 years ago
Agent it is called an "Oedipus Complex."
11 years ago
No, that's where you want to kill your father and marry your mother.
11 years ago
Stay with me here a minute, smerf- Agent said he has "a thing for powerful black gapped toothed women." I add my dumb comment associating this "thing" with the "Oedipus Complex." Through the associative propoerty the connection between the black gapped tooth women and his mom is established. As a result, I am implying his mother is a "powerful black gapped toothed" woman. Kind of loses the punch after explaining it.
11 years ago
Except my mother isn't a powerful black gapped toothed woman. She's quiet opposite. She's weak, brown, ungapped tooth woman...hence, I don't have a thing for my own mother. Besides, i came out of that thing, I don't intend on coming in it either.
11 years ago
Baserapaing seatswapping motherfuckers!
11 years ago
My hands are shaking! My Hands are shaking!! But I'm STILL shooting!!! And I'm still getting headshots!!! It's like BOOM HEADSHOT!! BOOM HEADSHOT!!!
11 years ago
lmao
11 years ago
Hey legaldick do you know when world war III has started???

The French surrender and the majority of the world's countries ask the USA to protect them!!! So FUCK off ASSHOLE!!!!!
11 years ago
i think youll find its the un they will be asking, thats the point of the un dipshit. america just seems to do what the fuck it wants and get away with it.
11 years ago
the un if you have noticed, is completly worthless.
11 years ago
OK, i have a few things to say.
1) why did a video of an American chopper have German music to it?
and 2) How and why did a video of a kickass chopper blowin shit up turn into a debate of America and WWII?! cmon guys, just watch the explosions and smile.
and on the topic of America and WWII, America has been the worlds most powerful country since we joined WWII, and yes the result of the war was primarily due to our intervention. I am not saying we are better than the other Allied countries, its just since we entered at the end, the other countries had expended their resources and started running out of men, so we were fresh, were able to blitz it both across France, but also up the Italian peninsula (with the Brits as well) to take out Benito Mussolini. Russia, while they were a very strong country, would not have ended the war on their own. Their efforts were strong, but the American advance in the east was so strong that Hitler invested most of his power on that front. The end of the war, no matter what anyone says, though, was because Hitler saw the forces knocking on his door in the east, and in his back yard on his west, and decided it was over and did not want to live anymore, so he commited suicide.
Vietnam was America's only real 'loss.' This, however was due to conflict between millitary leaders.
America has always been the leader in millitary, in technology, and strength. This is where our country is dominant, and why we are the "World Police" (not from the Team America movie, people, it is an actual term, believe it or not). We are, however, not the leader in consumer technology, and economic strength. This is because of our government's decision to invest more in millitary than in the economy. But, I would rather live in a country where I know I am safe if a full scale war were to break out, if that meens not having as strong of an economy.
11 years ago
World police eh? So where is Mr World Policeman when it comes to true injustices committed in other countries other than a few stern words? I think a better term is needed.
And what the fuck in God's name are you talking about the government investing in the economy? The US is all supposed to be about free enterprise and entrepreneurial spirit, the idea of fiscal policy being the primary driver of economic growth and employment died in the 60s and 70s. The US still has the most innovative consumers in the world. Were it not for American consumers, technological advances would be slower even with the supposed technical marvel of the Japanese. India and China are a long way off where the US is in developing new industries. And the US does it without the government having to splurge excessively even if politicians would like you to believe otherwise through their words and actions.
11 years ago
let's be honest, without japan you wouldn't have your fancy video games and your yellow fever porn...
And without germany, you wouldn't have those overpriced and overrated luxury cars that need constant repair... (seriously, our bmw makes more trips to the dealership than anywhere else)
so who really came out better after WWII?
11 years ago
Ok, just one thing that I am getting tired of, all the statements that we sat out most of the war or joined it at the end. WWII ran from September 1, 1939 – September 2, 1945. We joined Dec. 8, 1941. Before that we were supplying the Allies with military equipment and other supplies (Lend-Lease act on March 11, 1941), as well as manpower that voluntarily joined foreign armies to fight before we "officially" joined the fray. By my calculations that puts us in for over 2/3 of the conflict, we may have been late to the party, but we showed up with the party supplies to make it a big blowout.
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Were we the reason the Allies won? I don't think that there will ever be a consensus on that. But stop saying that we sat out most of it.
11 years ago
SNIKT- I like ot think we were "fashionably late."
11 years ago
The cool people always are.
11 years ago
legaldick,,,I read all your statements and only found one spelling error,,you get to go find it,,,I'm impressed,,,semper fi
11 years ago
Thanks recon, there were actually serveral spelling errors:
proprosing, insinutaions, necesarrily, responsiblity, prsident, arguement, diarreah,and eitities. DO NOT copy and paste this shit to a spell check program!!! Takes about 20 minutes to get through it all.
Our opinions may vary, but one thing unites us...spelling errors and abortion style grammar!!!
11 years ago
^ and this all started over a kickass cobra video
11 years ago
I've seen better.
11 years ago
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