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Jon Stewart Debates Bill Bennett on Gay Marriage

It's funny watching a conservative try to frame bigotry as a legal issue.

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by TiredGuy

submitted June 12th 2006

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i saw this. stewart kicks this guys ass. they extended the segment just to embarrass the old bastard even more. john stewart for president.
11 years ago
"what's to say government can't define marraige between different income levels."

What the fuck are you talking about jon stewart you fucking moron. Government didn't define marraige as being between man and woman. They've kept the definition the same since it was defined by the church, and aren't planning on changing it now. that's what will keep them from defining it with income levels. fucking moron.
11 years ago
are you mentally handicapped? Bennett clearly took gay marriage to the FURTHEST possible point to try and make a bad point, so Stewart counteracted that with the exact opposite point. He was just disproiving Bennett's bad arguments. Stewart owns all.
11 years ago
Indeed...


And just because "iloseatlife"'s nickname from his slutty boyfriend is NEXT!--dont mean others should be deprived of the legal contract....

Why should straight people be the only ones to carry the eternal burden of marriage...?


Dont worry "iloseatlife" one day you will find a nice man to settle down with.
11 years ago
iloseatlife, you mabey right about the definition of marriage. mabey the original defintion of it does involve a man and a women. but wha tabout the original definitions of freedom, or equality for that matter? if were really going to talk about changing definitions, lets talk about those definitions, which congress has so extensivley changed throughout the years. we live in america, the land of equality and oppertunity, get used to it or get out. and idk wtf kind of gay people you know, but all the ones i know are no less committing than a straight couple. mabey you know all these perverse gay people because you are one? jus ta guess.
11 years ago
Bennett was pretty incoherent , even more so than usual.... hrmm, I coulda put together a better argument banning gay marriage and i'm not even a dumbass republican!!!
11 years ago
Call me liberal, call me baby killer, call me a sheep to popular media, but that kicked ass.
11 years ago
Jon Stewart is the king. he's too smart for his own good. he burgers everyone in debates. ps: iloseatlife is a gay rights activist. i looked it up on the internets.
11 years ago
never has someones screenname so accurately described them as with "iloseatlife"<br>why dont i get to see Stewart debate more often? hes fucking great i want to give him a big hetero hug
11 years ago
either way fags and dykes shouldnt be able to marry, its deffinitly wrong. its like trying to force to wrong puzzle pieces together. fuck bullshit fake ass religion, in nature you dont see two female lions looking for a dildo and wearing a flannel
11 years ago
actually even in the animal world there are gay animals.

so.. yeah... not sure if the whole against nature works so well for this one... especially since well what i just said and like....... you know.. the fact that animals for the most part don't have only one mate so the whole comparing it to marriage.. not so good...
11 years ago
I saw on the "National Geagraphoc Channel" that there's a huge population of lesbian monkeys in Japan. It was fucking awsome!
11 years ago
Umm if the gays want to go to the army and get married, good for them, cuz I dont!! You can have my spot!
11 years ago
The bottom line is that marriage, from the perspective of government involvement, is nothing but a private legal contract. There is absolutely no valid legal argument for denying a certain group of people from entering into such a contract. Or, if I'm wrong, present such a legal argument to me.
11 years ago
hows your husband doing tired guy?
11 years ago
Is John Stewart the interviewer? I never heard of either of them anyway but the interviewer sucked. He was only interested in listening to his own voice and gave true meaning to the quote: "Conversation in the USA has become a competitive excersize where the first person to draw a breath is declared the listener".
11 years ago
baltimore, actually, homosexuality happens in the animal kingdom alot. and we are different, that's the point, humans can love for more reasons than if they can keep the species going. I loved this, I was hoping tiredguy would post it, and you people who think gays shouldn't be allowed to marry, have your nose wayy up other people's asses.and sasquatch, you're the fag.
11 years ago
And I thought $nake was a literal snake this whole time anyway... how in the the FUCK do you not know who Jon Stewart is?
11 years ago
True, forget the symbolism how about granting the same legal rights that couples enjoy such as social security, taxation and inheritance.

I don't know how it works there but here the fact that two people of the same gender do not enjoy the legal status that even a de facto couple enjoy here just doesn't balance out as far as a moral argument goes.

As much as I enjoy Jon Stewart and his insightful commentary, talking over the top and basically turning it into a confrontation doesn't make him a winner this time, <unfortunately>.
11 years ago
Oh me oh my, someone else has made a remark implying that I am homosexual... And I guess I'm supposed to--what, go cry in the corner now? So what if I was... Would that automatically make you superior? Hey, I know! Accuse me of being black, or albino, or blind, or deaf, or paraplegic, or something witty and poignant like that.
11 years ago
I agree TG,

I allready used that tactic (far better I might add) to take "iloseatlife" out of the closet...Then this two bit hack-with a nick name reminiscent of the big hairy Bears he longs for and tries to crudly imply that you are taken?

I wonder-

If all the Sasquatch really wants to know is if you are single...Not that I am saying that you are a sinfull homosexual...but then again you are intelligent enough to not take it as an insult.

:D

11 years ago
Hey look.... it's a shark.... and there goes Jon Stewart jumping over it with his motorcycle.
11 years ago
ok let me start off by talking about the gay comment. ok lets analyse it...were discussing homosexuality.....tired guy is defending it. he is speaking in a way that implies his beliefs are that there is nothign wrong with homosexuality. and so what do you do? you imply hes gay. ok. hey person who isnt a homophobe, your a fag. oh wow thats extremely phasing. good job. your a fucking einstein.
11 years ago
ok and as for the animal kingdom thing. do you realise how many studied have shown that homosexuality exists in the animal kingdom? you have no idea how many gay animals there are. common pets as well, dogs and cats. it happens frequently in domestic animals. and aside from that its been LITERALY proven that homosexuality is something uncontrollable from birth. its a natural attraction. i think it was proven with a certain species of flies. they studies the hormonal reaction between different sexes, then geneticaly altered the hormones and were able to control which sex they mated with. i dotn remember the details. but its a chemical reaction, not a choice. they cant help being gay anymore then their race, or gender.(unless ''they'' are michael jackson.
11 years ago
does anyone think that having sex with the same sex is a natural thing i mean u dont see male lizards fucking male lizards or female frogs humping other female frogs its just not how were made what if everyone turned completely gay all of a sudden guess what the human population would die off were made to reproduce with the opposite sex if u believe in evolution then how u think we evolved by monkeys fucking other monkeys up the ass no so gay marriage its rediculous because there shouldnt even be a such thing as being gay
11 years ago
^um dude. its a natural selection kind of thing. were not going to die of lack of reproduction. theres a percentage of gays just as there are a precentage of straight people. and i proved it is natural, wheres your proof that it isnt natural? ''ive never seen reptiles or amphibians fuck so i guess its not true''. yeah thats really hard evidence you got there. not to mention no one else as used to animal kingdom argument yet (read up douche bag). that was the lamest excuse for a nargument ive ever heard. i dont think you even know what you believe.
11 years ago
''what if everyone turned completely gay all of a sudden'', are you seriously illiterate? the world cant just turn gay. its not a choice you bastard. its a hormonal imbalance from birth. its something uncontrollable, its not a choice. well for osme its a choice(like little teenage girls who think theyl get more attention from guys if they act like lesbian sluts) but im sure that your hypocritical asses are fine with that kind of homosexuality right? contradicting worthless pieces of shit.
11 years ago
wow, this is so one sided. I would like to see how mr. fake news does against someone real. I watched for about 25 seconds and then when the audience started shrieking with applause at whatever mr. douchbag had to say, i stopped. It's just glorified dreck. He should have a real debate, with someone he knows has something real to say. Bill Bennet? Are you kidding me?

anyway, i think fags should marry, i mean, why not? They are just a genetic dead end. No real harm done. Then they could get the benefits of normal people who are in marriages.

Now for raising kids? Hell no. I totally disagree. Can any of you honestly say you would let your kids be raised by faggots? Really. Can you HONESTLY say that you would? If the whole world where all gay, then we would cease to exist. Pretty simple to me.
11 years ago
^read the comments. i already mentioned that jon stewart has been pn a real news show before. he wasnt the host, he didnt joke around. i think it was after 9/11. iforget what he was defending though. anyways the host of hte show was begging for a commercial by the end. and as for faggots raising kids. if someone doesnt want homosexuals adopting their kids they can raise em their own godamn self, or get a nabortion. if i put my kid up for adoption i wouldnt care if a gay couple took the kid, but its better than being raised in an orphonage by nuns who are raising 40 other kids.
11 years ago
if i was president i would make gay marriage legal. but i wouldnt let gay couples get divorced, cause i think it would be funny.
11 years ago
K-billy, what is this "all gay" bullshit<br>its pretty much concensus that sexuality is a sliding scale, the incident of being entire homosexual or entirely heterosexual is tiny<br>and studies show that children raised by homosexuals do better on average then children raised by heteros. there is no incident of ACCIDENTAL birth with homosexuals, they go through hard times to get kids so they raise them with all their hearts<br>
and they are NO more likely to be gay or mentally unstable than other children<br>
the only thing that sucks for those kids is that meat head racist fucks treat them like shit
11 years ago
I don't get the term "UN-NATURAL" Like nature is something outside of our civilization. Our society is a product of our natural evolution. Everything that happens is natural. Puppies die, babies get blown up, men fuck eachother. Every day. Deal with it.


What is unatural is marriage................................discuss.
11 years ago
TiredGuy is not even a person, he is actually an AI script written by four college kids and one stoner who lives in the woods by the campus. --- I hope that was original enough. :P

As for the whole natural/un-natural conversation... Well - how many of you are familiar with the Percula Clownfish?

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Since these fish live in a warm water environment they can reproduce all year long. Each group of fish consists of a breeding pair and 0-4 non-breeders. Within each group there is a size-based hierarchy: the female is largest, the male is second largest, and the non-breeders get progressively smaller as the hierarchy descends. If the female dies, the male changes sex, becomes the breeding female and the largest non-breeder becomes the breeding male...
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(Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percula_Clownfish )
11 years ago
why do gay people make a big deal about it. It's a fucking piece of paper if they wanna be together up to them but why want a piece of paper to say they're together. I don't think a govt can legalise it cos i believe a family has to have a mum and a dad you cant have family of 2 married dad's with an adopted kid or something cos unfair to the kid cos he'll be fucked up.
11 years ago
MBI, there are alot of species that are like that. for instance the species of frogs mentioned in the first jurrasic park film. but i dotn udnerstand why that is relevant to human homosexuality. @ozebruss, are you married? do you wanna get married? why does ANYONE want a piece of paper? why? because they can, and if straight people can, why cant gay people? and as for the whole ''tw odads raising a kid'' thing, 1. why is this all about male homosexuals. was i right? are all those who oppose gay marriage contradicting pieces of shit? hypocritical perverted bastards who get off to watching two girls makeout, but then prevent the girls from making their lives legaly binded? 2. does anyone here read comments before they post their own? its been proven in studies that kids raised by same sex parents turn out fine. read up for more detail on that.
11 years ago
^^thank you<br>also its not just about "they can do it, why cant we?"<br>if one member of a gay couple dies his significant other has no rights in relation to the death unless they have wills written out.<br>they have no hospital visitation rights, if one dies and all the possessions are in his name the other gets NOTHING<br>this is why people are against gay marriage. its not about nature, or morals<br>its all about certain people wanting to have control over other people<br>if you think homosexuality is immoral, then you have to base it on the bible which makes no distinction between gay sex and masterbating. the punishment for both is death<br>and HelloImBiziagh, the clown fish article was about the idea of what is natural and what isnt
11 years ago
Setting aside the marriage part, that piece of paper bestows a number of legal rights. Again setting aside the controversial part about adoption, a number of legal financial rights are simply not granted without such a powerful piece of paper.
11 years ago
animals also eat each other raw, take big shits in public, fuck in public, and bite little babies.
guess we should all be able to do that too.
fucking dumb dipshit morons.
it just goes to show how fucking pathetic faggots are. Your arguments basically say that we should be more like animals. That proves my fucking point, fags are fucking animals.
11 years ago
As opposed to heterosexuals who aren't fucking animals.
11 years ago
True story. I work with guy, he's totally gay. He's also in his upper 50's. He's been with the same dude for close to 25 years. His partner has this condition where he has strokes all the time. ( I know it sound like there should be joke coming, but it's just tragic irony) Any way my friend has to care for, clean, give him his meds etc. But when he has to go to the hospital, he's not allowed to go in the room w/ him, because he's not "family". That's one reason they should be able to be legally joined.
11 years ago
HelloImBiziagh - Yah, I know there are other critters who do things similar to the clown fish I used as an example. My point was about how the use of the term 'unnatural' is a flawed one. I'm not sure one could win an argument which says that ‘nature is unnatural’.

One of my best friends is gay and he’s one of the coolest people I've ever met. I’ve known him since something like 83-84 and I think we'll be friends until one of us dies. If you stood next to the guy, you would never know he's gay. He's not a flame or anything even close nor does he try to make his being gay an issue or anyone’s business. We all have our desires and our own perversions. If you don't have any yet, you've obviously not been having sex for very long if at all.

Just because a person is gay doesn’t make them any more or less perverted than straight people.

If everybody took the time to sit and talk with people who they perceive to be different, we’d learn that we really are all pretty much the same.

11 years ago
So why is it that you use the word nigger all the time you fucking hypocrite? Wow, you have a gay friend, yet you're a racist. Maybe if you took the time to sit and talk with black people, you'd learn that you're a metalhead redneck from North Carolina.
11 years ago
shut up nigger
11 years ago
You are all pieces of shit for taking any of this seriously. Yes, every one of you. It's one video of one measley political debate on the Daily Show. I highly doubt it was meant to cause this much debate from all of you thin-skinned over-sensitive shitheads. That's just My point of view though, so go on, keep bitching, I'm sure it'll get things done.
11 years ago
"what's to say government can't define marraige between different income levels."

Just throwing it out there. India used to ban marrige between people in different socio-economic levels because of nation's religion, something about a past life I think.
11 years ago
Johnny boy - you really need to get a new hobby.
Call me what you will if it makes you feel better about yourself.
You have my sympathy and perhaps one day, after you've grown up you'll figure out what a goober you were.

Oh and I live in Florida - at least get the location right.
11 years ago
iloseatlife has obviously never heard of sushi, a public urinal, or gotten freaky in a risky area.<br>
and the killing little children part, that is usually new alpha males asserting dominance and the mothers ALWAYS defend them<br>so youve clearly never heard of child abuse either.<br>WE ARE ANIMALS YOU DUMB FUCK SHIT<br>stick to an argument, its either unnatural and there for wrong, or we SHOULDNT do it, BECAUSE animals do.
11 years ago
ok sorry MBI, guess i just didnt see where you stood, or which side ytou were defending, but ive always liked you so i should have assumed you were for gay marriage. and p.s. dovriot is one of my new heroes.
11 years ago
oh and johnny-ringo, for one thign this started with someone against gay marriage. they wanted to speak their voice and let their opinions be heard, so i and many other who disagree with them, wanted our opinions to be heard as well. call us oversensative if you want, but we have an opinion, and were not gonna just keep it to ourselves, and lock it in our minds as if it shames us. i dont give a shit what anything here at mucho sucko accomplishes, because i know it wont produce anything. but theres always the possibility of changing someones mind, and thats always worth a try. your right it wont legalise gay marriage, but does that make me having an opinion wrong? we argue because we can. we take it seriously because it is a serious issue. you know what your right, i should just close my mouth and not use the freedom of speech i was give nwhe n iwas born.(sarcasm)
11 years ago
Sorry dude, but I think you may be confused. I didn't direct any remarks toward you whatsoever, and I have no idea what you're talking about.
11 years ago
I didn't say any of those things you accused me of saying, however I'll weigh in on the topic, just so you accurately criticize me rather than spewing hot-winded bullshit. I don't have a problem with gay marriage, as long as they're not changing the sacrament of marriage itself. Meaning, if two people are joined in matrimony, they share a responsiblily of commitment and monogamy to one another. I've spoken with several gays who admitted that they would be polygamists no matter what. Marriage or not. I think this is wrong. Look, I'm not married, nor will I be for a long time because I like to fuck around with different girls. If I ever did tie the knot though, I would be monogamous because that's what marriage is about. Love, trust, and partnership. Now if you excuse me, I'm gonna go bang my "flavor of the week".
11 years ago
Next time, try reading the comments moron.
11 years ago
I hope you feel better now.
11 years ago
HelloImBiziagh - From what I've seen (in the U.S anyway) marriage is just another business contract. Well... more like a contract that when dissolved, one party gets the gold and the other gets the shaft. :D

Not to mention it’s not exactly like the heterosexual community has an impressive marriage success rate.

'...but theres always the possibility of changing someones mind, and thats always worth a try...' That is one of the best things about communication.
11 years ago
^lol sorry ringo, looked at the wrong name. meant thorvalethered. my deepest appologies for the confusion. i guess i just looked up to fast. and yeah MBI im quite aware of the divorce rate (as is jon stewart, lol i love his last argument just before the clip ends). but straight people get the oppertunity to divorce ,whe ngay people arent even legal to be married. i know its jus ta contract, but as dovriot mentioned alot of good things come from it for the couple.
11 years ago
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