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handguns

*clearly* reducing gun control is the way to go. god bless america indeed.

politics

by DejaVu

submitted December 15th 2012

110 comments
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Oh piss off.


* Sporty meanders off to get his gun *
5 years ago
fuck you commie if you think you are going to take my right to bare arms against british oppression.
5 years ago
Yeah!

* smerf is wearing a tanktop *
5 years ago
WEST GERMANY ? how old is that poster :|
5 years ago
yeah, i know. numbers are probably higher now
5 years ago
Except for the US'...theirs are lower.
5 years ago
oh, i highly doubt that
5 years ago
How 'bout we just ban people...they're the ones killing other people. Its not like you can't kill someone with a bow or an axe or a big stick or anything...
5 years ago
This is a fresh poster in maple land. They get their propaganda along with their fashion tips. Deja posted this in her MC Hammer pants.
5 years ago
DO NOT MOCK HAMMER-PANTS
5 years ago
How about, and I'm just spitballing here, instead of blaming the tool that was used and trying to stop that, we instead try to recognize, treat, and stop mental illness? Just a suggestion. I know it won't take, because it doesn't look as sexy on a poster, or scare enough people in a politicians speach, but just putting it out there.
5 years ago
sure, did they know he was mentally ill before he took his parents guns and killed everyone?
5 years ago
how about someone who is fucked in the head.. maybe their parents (who end up getting fucking murdered) could maybe you know... now be stockpiling guns for their batshit insane sun to take and then murder them with.....
5 years ago
son*
5 years ago
fact
5 years ago
This is only handguns. :(
5 years ago
so really, if we did take away guns, what would it do? is there still gun violence in countries where average people arent allowed guns? what about cars? how many car related deaths are there each day? oh well, want my guns, please feel free to come get them. my front door will be unlocked for you and i will freely hand them over i promise.
5 years ago
i dont get your car analogy
were you trying to make a point or were you just trying to sound stupid?
5 years ago
cars are vehicles, guns are killing tools

????
5 years ago
why even bother with a logical rebuttal on something so laughable ;/
5 years ago
I guess he's trying to say if we take away guns people will start running over others with their car. Who knows.
5 years ago
Why should he bother making a real point over a foolish picture like this.
5 years ago
gun/car analogy is thus: both are tools. both are used for a specific purpose, but when you put an idiot in charge, bad things happen. but im sorry i thought you people to be more intelligent and actually grasp the concept, next time i will just come out and say it. and yes to anyone wanting to point out that guns are made for killing, i know this, the choice of targets is the critical factor.
5 years ago
So out of 10,728 deaths in America, 28 are white? I can live with those statistics :)
5 years ago
where did you get that faulty statistic from
5 years ago
Only blacks kill blacks.
5 years ago
and the same place that you get all your wrong information from too.
5 years ago
from an article in july 2012
-The US has the highest gun ownership rate in the world - an average of 88 per 100 people. That puts it first in the world for gun ownership - and even the number two country, Yemen, has significantly fewer - 54.8 per 100 people

First number is % of homicides by gun, followed by total number of deaths, world rank by ownership, percent of ownership, and total number of civilian firearms

United States 60 9,146 1 88.8 270,000,000
Germany 26.3 58 15 30.3 25,000,000
England and Wales 6.6 41 88 6.2 3,400,000
Japan 1.8 11 164 0.6 710,000
Canada 32 173 13 30.8 9,950,000
Sweden 33.9 37 10 31.6 2,800,000
Switzerland 72.2 57 3 45.7 3,400,000
Israel 11.7 6 79 7.3 500,000 **
Brazil 70.8 34,678 75 8 14,840,000

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list#data
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

**does Isreal's count the amount of people killed via military? Cause I would suspect it would be much higher
5 years ago
first link remove #data or just scroll up
also "But the US does not have the worst firearm murder rate - that prize belongs to Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica. In fact, the US is number 28, with a rate of 2.97 per 100,000 people
• Puerto Rico tops the world's table for firearms murders as a percentage of all homicides - 94.8%. It's followed by Sierra Leone in Africa and Saint Kitts and Nevis in the Caribbean"
5 years ago
Are you trying to write a novel or something?
5 years ago
yes
5 years ago
St.Kitts is lovely this time of year.
5 years ago
Yay! Fazebook! La-la-laaaa!
5 years ago
boom !!
5 years ago
20,032 in Thailand, 21,898 in Columbia and 31,918 in South Africa. I like how whoever made this list gave you countries with extremely low numbers to emphasize the propaganda message. Although this is a really poor picture regardless... What does it even mean? It makes no mention of long guns, shotguns or ANY other deadly weapons outside of firearms and only mentions eight different countries. Knee jerk reaction; "Handguns are bad and are the only way to kill someone also America is the worst in handgun related violence!" Then you stop and realize none of that makes sense. At all. Are we talking suicides, homicides or accidental deaths?! Where are the numbers for other non firearm deaths? These are things we should probably know! Right?!
5 years ago
Oh yeah those aren't things that are relevant because thinking critically means nothing when you are confronted by the worlds biggest bad guy, Handgun. Guns r bad mmkay.
5 years ago
plus, I'm betting the total death tolls in those countries are just as, if not higher than the US's and because of their country's "gun control" they just don't have the luxury to use to use guns
5 years ago
Well you could just look at the homicide statistics: http://data.un.org/Data.aspx?d=UNODC&f=tableCode%3A1. The US still has the highest per 100.000 capita out of all the civilized countries. But at least they beat Mexico.
5 years ago
America, China, and Russia are the big three
5 years ago
Mexico sucks.......
5 years ago
guns dont kill people
5 years ago
Your breath does though!
Bammmmmm
5 years ago
whammy ?
5 years ago
* jrob2020 nods *
5 years ago
It's sad to see other countries being controled by their own government and the way they make them think.
5 years ago
Toolman, our governments don't have anti-gun propaganda, we just don't have a natural urge to own lots and lots of firearms, most likely because our parents didn't either.
5 years ago
Here guns are only associated with hunting, and hunting is mostly associated with posh rich oldfarts, so its just not in the common mans interest.
5 years ago
Not to be a dick, but isn't your countries defense policy based off of the philosophies of Anne Frank
5 years ago
I'm not a gun nut or anything, I don't own any firearms, but The U.S was founded by men with guns who set out to make their own destinies. It is a defining part of our culture and heritage.
5 years ago
Defense policies have nothing to do with gun rights for citizens.
5 years ago
* yak starts off a comment saying not to be a dick but *


* yak intentionally acts like a dick *

5 years ago
Is this still happening? :/
5 years ago
APPARENTLY!
5 years ago
i blame the news media
5 years ago
And if you want to discuss defense policies maybe you should check the stats for out involvement in Afghanistan, Iran and Libya.
5 years ago
*Iraq
5 years ago
Uhm, *our
5 years ago
hmmmff... My point was cultural Identity. How we see ourselves on the world stage. It wasn't the Netherlands going before the UN saying "Who's comin' with me??"
5 years ago
Not to dis' anyone or even that I agree with US foreign policy or gun laws for that matter, but guns are not going away. It's really an issue of personal responsibility. Which most people have little of.
5 years ago
I hope the Dutch/Danes confusion is just a running gag :/
But yes, I agree with your point on it being part of the countries culture, which was also sorta my point to begin with.
5 years ago
YES
5 years ago
Oh your from Denmark, fuck.
5 years ago
But yup, that ship has already sailed. There are already more guns that citizens, so theres no point in making an effortless attempt to take them all away.
5 years ago
Hey gang, Can you help a fellow muchoer sub a couple videos? I'm using a pc and I have a couple videos on my iPhone to sub. How do I go about it? Plus how do you upload a video from you tube or link?
5 years ago
insert gun in mouth
pull trigger
5 years ago
God Bless America by the way. I love your country.
5 years ago
How many times have you been deported out of it so far?
5 years ago
I answered your question already shit head.
5 years ago
wouldnt this more truthfull if the figures were a % of killing by national population ?...
5 years ago
Switzerland 34 killings of a pop:7million
America 10,728 killings of a pop:312million

i think the % would be a lot closer
5 years ago
You feeling ok fries? Defending Americans isn't like you.
5 years ago
1500? not really that close actually
still a 7:1 imbalance
5 years ago
I'd like to know how many of these killings were in self defense. For example, shooting an intruder, or protecting one's self.
5 years ago
* possum subs a map *
5 years ago
Good luck getting an unbiased statistic on that. In fact, good luck getting any unbiased statistics. And I mean this in defense of either stance. The anti gun lobbies and the NRA make up whatever statistics that they want.
5 years ago
As does the government in general :(
5 years ago
How the fuck are there only 58 in Israel??? Is it because they prefer automatic rifles over hand guns....has to be.
5 years ago
1 of every 2 people in Norway carry a handgun = lowest crime rate on the planet
5 years ago
The fuck!?
5 years ago
They're not guns, they're mooses.
5 years ago
mooses dont kill people ...
5 years ago
often....
5 years ago
Nobody gives a fuck about Norwegians.
5 years ago
i do
5 years ago
D'awwww
5 years ago
only the Tronders, though
5 years ago
the rest of you can fuck right off
5 years ago
Fuck You Norway.
5 years ago
should read: Fuck You. Nor Way
5 years ago
http://www.data360.org/graph_group.aspx?Graph_Group_Id=441

You don't need a gun to kill someone.
5 years ago
lol '(various years)'

gold.
5 years ago
sooooo, no one gets murdered in pakistan....GTFO
5 years ago
* warning graph may contain made up figures
5 years ago
it was a good year
5 years ago
http://violentdeathproject.com/
Better?
5 years ago
So how many times are we gonna be discussing the same thing?
5 years ago
I wasn't here and didn't read the thread. No one's forcing you to pay attention to this.
5 years ago
Okay, fair enough, it just seemed like this whole thing these past days has been going in a loop. But yeah, figures by capita are not as bad considering the size of the country, but are none the less the worst in the richer countries.
When then looking at the homicide count divided by the population density it showed that the US was #4.
5 years ago
Yeah, I'm just joining in late. I'm not saying more guns, or less guns. Our society (American) is fucked up and violent and if someone wants to off people they're going to find a way to do it regardless.
5 years ago
It's a societal problem, not just the amount of guns we have.
5 years ago
I agree, the figures I was considering were also for all homicides. Besides, at this point it wont help attempting to confiscate people's guns.
5 years ago
Basically its another case of the ole Cold War Jitterbug.
5 years ago
how about his? everyone either carries a gun or wears a brassard (which is one of those armband things on the bicep).

now, you're probably saying, "but that's crazy!!! that would mean so many shooting!!!"

would it really? true, there would be some hot heads out there, but since they can only die once, the resulting society would be so much more courteous.
5 years ago
how about we just make the world a giant laser tag arena... noone will get killed by guns and it will be a lot more fun
5 years ago
Now we're talking!
5 years ago
you get 'shot' while being robbed, you have to give over your wallet
5 years ago
we could play all the laser tag you want, but everyone having guns would lead to responsible gun use.
5 years ago
there's just no way around that.
5 years ago
although, initially, it would be a blood bath.
5 years ago
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