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Crack the CIA

A documentary accusing law enforcement agencies of playing an active role in drug trafficking.

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by TiredGuy

submitted February 28th 2006

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I have no problem with the material here and what the administrators accept/reject because if I did, I would simply go away since its their site. But I do find it puzzling you would openly admit to relying on the administrators here to filter through your submissions.

Problem is people that critcise you aren't all neocons or whatever your new label is. I can't/won't stop you from writing whatever you want but I will tell you how I think you're fucking it up for everyone else who is trying to change things.

In a nutshell you are demonstrating the other side of the same fucking coin.

Simply spouting rhetoric and not acknowledging caveats and drawbacks is the mirror of what is being thrown at you. Painting huge generalisations and labelling people isn't helping to get whatever grain of truth you have across as it gets lost in all your white noise, you might as well just stick to the insults.

Sure you can come back here and say that you aren't taking it seriously but from what you usually write, I doubt that very much.

And for God's sake for once explain the chip on your shoulder about China instead of some stupid ambiguous one-liner.
11 years ago
"It gets lost in all your white noise" Making a statement like that is most likely a sign that you are african american. Are you?
11 years ago
Just asking!
11 years ago
Wow! You have been busy while I was out.

Turdgay- your myopic view of conservatives is entertaining at best. Sure, some of my peers are the type who listen to nothing but Rush and O'Reilly and that is their choice. But to have you lump us into the same category is really quite ignorant. Also, you're idiotic comment about being labled a "terrorist" or "anti-American" is only a spotlight on your hypocricy as you consistently call Bush a liar, an evil entity and other such bull shit. Try something- double your Prozac for a few days and then sit in a quiet room, away from Mushosucko, and see if you can think in a rational rather than emotional manner. Ask yourself how it is that Bush can be so "stupid" and yet is capable of plotting a personal war over oil/revenge for dad/Saddam had bad hair/liberal idea du jour. Seriously- is he so stupid that he is brilliant? Can't have it both ways there, champ. Next, while you are thinking rationally, what do you honestly think Bush would gain by destroying this country as you and your liberal shithead peers consistently accuse him of doing? He is out of office in 2009 (That would be about 4 pounds of Prozac away) and then what? He is going to settle down in a destroyed country with his ill gotten gains and live the life of a king who can't afford gas? Can you HONESTLY (I mean "real honest, not "Clinton- what is is?-honest") tell me that Bush is intentionally destroying the country? Sure, his policies and actions can be fairly described as "not helping" but do you REALLY think he has a hard-on over destroying the USA??

As for your clearly stated hatred for conservatives and neo-conservatives- I would expect a person in a depressed state of mind such as you to spew forth such excrement, Turd, but really- you hate Americans who disagree with you? You hate PEOPLE you don't even know? Are you mentally incapable of separating an individual from his actions? I don't hate you but I dislike your attitude and your one track "I hate all tings not liberal" mind. Do I wish death upon you? No. I wish death upon your confessed mental illness so that you may come to your senses (whatever is left anyway) and see that it is okay to disagree without hating. But then, I guess liberals expect everyone to be tolerant of THEIR point of view but they are free to be intolerant of everyone else and their differing point of view?

I am glad that you are seeking help for your mental condition, Turd, but you may want to consider an alternative treatment method. It is quite obvious to me that marinating your brain in seratonin is not doing anything for your rage and hatred. Perhaps you should pursue treatment with Lithium or possibly MAOIs.

Either way, Turd, while I dislike your shitty attitude, I still hold hope for you.
11 years ago
"white noise" is a refrence to alot of incoherent audible noises like that static on your television when you get no signal.
11 years ago
**reference**
11 years ago
ok thanks hanya! I'm from europe so i don't know all the english expresions! Sorry chairman!
11 years ago
Monkeyfuck i'll answer that one! Bush is in war with Iraq for oil wich means money! He wants to make the most amount of money in a short time and give the USA a oil supply for the future! Now everyone knows Bush is to stupid to pull it off, but thank god he has help from the rest of the governement, his dad and the republican party! As you may have noticed you yourself have once again given no reason to the war (in iraq) and all you have done is insult tiredguy! way the go!
11 years ago
vw- I didn't give a reason for the Iraq war because I was not asked for one. Besides, it isn't like you have a deck of rhetoric cards to draw from in case I did present a coherent reason for it. I do agree that oil does figure into the equation and, given the current GLOBAL energy situation what with China and India starting to develop serious oil appetites, then yes, I hope my country WOULD do something to secure energy reserves somewhere. I am not naieve enough to thnk we went there "only" to liberate the Iraqiis and I have alreday seen the bile you spew forth about the "WMD" search and so I won't waste anymore time on that topic. So, yes, the war DOES have something to do with oil and it also has something to do with the GWOT. How much of either is anyone's guess and yes, it IS just a guess. I was not privy to the Cabinet meetings nor the gathering of the JCS and I serioulsy doubt anyone here to claim to have such access or insight so I will leave it at that.

You claim "everyone knows bush is to (sic) stupid to pull it off but .. he has hel..." Okay, so it isn't just W who wants to destroy America but the rest of the leadership as well? Why would they want to destroy the land they "rule."? Thats like Michael Jordan destroying all basketball courts or Chuck Norris desroying all dojos (which he could do if he wanted to). Do you want to destroy your own home (assuming you don't rent) ? Give me ONE good (GOOD!) reason for the government to want to destroy this country. One. Not too much to ask is it?

Oh, and thanks for the cheer, vw, but unlike the liberal NEA nuts, I prefer to EARN my self esteem rather than have some meaningless person foist upon me for successfully inhaling and exhaling for a minute.
11 years ago
Typing to vw is a waste of screen space, monkey, but I admire you're fervor. In the past I've written some astounding rhetorts to the liberals here, but never got any poignant responses in return, so I don't waste my time anymore. These "kids" as TG puts it, are not my intellectual equals.
11 years ago
I don't get that logic about the free market then. If America is the bastion of capitalism, shouldn't they go through the market or make deals like everyone else? I have never stated that the sole purpose of this war was for oil but doesn't it smack of hypocracy when in contrast to something like the US' role in the Suez crisis?

But then again Hindenberg did say something along the lines that war was the ultimate extension of diplomacy.
11 years ago
Yeah johnny ringo talking to liberals is a waste of time (sarcasm)! Talking to you is much beter! You responses like fuck you, like my dick, turd gay are really answering all questions! Isn't that what happens all the time! You republicans make a valid statement and the liberals just insult people? Or os it the other way around?

And johny next time read my comment carefully, then respond! I never said that the american goverment wants to destoy the US! I stated that they want power over iraq oilsupplies! They want to secure the flow of oil in the future!

And by the way, thank you for admitting that the war in Iraq is not on terrorism ans WMD! You will make some fine liberal afteral!
11 years ago
Another fledgling of TiredGay's cock.............. Gary, I was hoping you were going somewhere with that....... other than to start yap'n all night after I left.......... Amazing how quickly the sedative effect of you touching yourself while playing with your Hasselhoff collection wore off after ya started think'n about little boys and bedtime... NAMBLA has an international chaper... Did ya roar like a lion when you proclaimed you owned me; probably the same moment ya felt your bf's anaconda pulsating in your meathole. Yeah I bet you want a hole deal........ Watch out Hanya, you shouldn't have made contact........... Anyway, for the last time MUCHO SUCKO is about making fun of fucked up shit like yourself. I understand there is a language barrier and a vision problem, so wipe the dried cum off your eyelids... If you and the rest of Ace's dicklings want to masterbate over conspiracy theories, go right ahead. It fits well with dungeons & dragons......... Keep masterbating propaganda, which ever side you choose to accept.......... Tony Blair and his cabinet, the Queen, are they all going to be featured in your conspiracy of thousands......... LOL. Accusations are not generally accepted as fact until you prove them, so continue to answer your own questions.......... that you admit you don't know the answers to. Prove away, your mood swings and contradicktions are amusing, so keep it consistant. I will keep insulting bitches like you and you keep blow'n niggrs and fantasizing about conspiracy theories........ When ya get a chance and get those moldy gorilla nuts off of your chin, be sure to have the sand niggr, who is banging out Hasselhoff tunes on your butt trumpet, pat ya on the back and reassure you of ownage and what a good job your do'n cum drinker.......................
11 years ago
vw- Once again you are using generalizations, or at least implying them, when you comment "Isn't that what happens all the time! You republicans make a valid statement and the liberals just insult people?"

First, I am not Repuplican, I am an Independant. I have a LOT more in comon with Republicans than I do with Democrats but this has no influence on whether I am conservative or liberal. I am conservative although I do have liberal points of view on some minor issues. Once again you are demonstrating ignorance on what these terms mean. A Democrat can be conservative and a Republican can be liberal. Let me know if you need further explaining on this.

You requested that johnny read your comment carefully and then respond. I make the same request to you.

And please, vw, if I go through the trouble of asking a question, at least make an attempt to answer it rather than direct your feces flow at other individuals. You and I may both learn something from each other but the only lesson I see coming from your posts is "I hate Bush" and "you ______ (suck, are gay, take it in the ass...)." You are scoring no points for the mythical intellectual liberal.

11 years ago
Man i'm not even gonna keep discussing with you guys! All you guys do is insult people! Man what a real talent!
11 years ago
Figures................. Go fuck yourself Gary.......................
11 years ago
"Go fuck yourself Gary" - is that a quote from Spongebob?
11 years ago
Oh waaw funtime, are you up for a second season? And calling me gary is so funny! You can see howmany people are laughing their ass of! Man, you should do stand-up comedy! Not because of the great namecalling, but because your material is always fresh and new!


And monkeyfuck, at least you score points with insulting people, right!

11 years ago
No, see above Monkey.............. And CumSponge, go ahead and keep posting........... all night................
11 years ago
Chair- I thought I posted to your comment regarding free markets for oil but apparently I took too long in writing and it timed out on me. Recal that in the 1970's the US economy went down the shitter because OPEC decided to refrain from selling oil to anyone who supported Israel. (That would be Israel and the USA.) After seeing the ramifications of the reduced oil supply to the US economy, the US recognized that it had to minimize the risk of it ever happening again. (Nobody asked me at the time but that would have been a GREAT time to start to pursue alternative fuels but we decided to pursue "cheap" oil. )

If the oil market could be GAURANTEED to be "free" then I would fully support the idea of buying it on the open market at a "fair" market price. However, we still support Israel, the majority of our oil comes from Arab countries (yes, Norway, Nigeria and Venzuela too) and so we have to do what we can to ensure our economy is protected from a repeat embargo. Justification for war? Depends on your point of view and values. At the strategic level, I believe the US should do what has to be done to protect it's interests including war as a LAST resort. On the personal level, I don't like the idea that Bobby down the street toook an RPG in teh chest just so I can pay $2.50 a gallon instead of $7.00 for gas.

If you get a chance, please explain what the US role was in the Suez crisis. there are so many crises (criseses??) and hypocracy examples that I sometimes need a refresher. (Not a smart-ass comment- a sincere request for more info)
11 years ago
Funtime you are hot as a pistol! If you got noyhing to say shut up!
11 years ago
@cotb: "I do find it puzzling you would openly admit to relying on the administrators here to filter through your submissions."

They filter all submissions. I found this video, skipped through it to get a feel for its content (which I suspect is what yak does as well), and submitted it. I didn't make it. I didn't direct it. I don't appear in it. I didn't sell it. I posted the URL to it and clicked "Submit".

Again, if you have a problem with the video content on the site, that's between you and yak. If there is a problem with my not having personally reviewed something before submitting it, that's between me and yak. Period.

"In a nutshell you are demonstrating the other side of the same fucking coin.

Simply spouting rhetoric and not acknowledging caveats and drawbacks is the mirror of what is being thrown at you. Painting huge generalisations and labelling people isn't helping to get whatever grain of truth you have across as it gets lost in all your white noise, you might as well just stick to the insults."

I don't come to Mucho Sucko to proffer my best-laid-out political arguments. I do that elsewhere. (And if anyone here really wanted to know where that is, they could have by now ... but I'll neither say nor confirm.) I come here to vent and to gain entertainment. So, there's no "fucking coin" to begin with.

"Sure you can come back here and say that you aren't taking it seriously but from what you usually write, I doubt that very much."

Oh, I do take the topic seriously. I just don't take the discourse here all that seriously, though the venting obviously makes it seem that way.

"And for God's sake for once explain the chip on your shoulder about China instead of some stupid ambiguous one-liner."

China was chosen randomly. It was a generic reference to the validity of an overthrow attempt by an outside body. I thought this was obvious.
11 years ago
@monkeyfuck: "Ask yourself how it is that Bush can be so 'stupid' and yet is capable of plotting a personal war over oil/revenge for dad/Saddam had bad hair/liberal idea du jour. Seriously- is he so stupid that he is brilliant? Can't have it both ways there, champ. Next, while you are thinking rationally, what do you honestly think Bush would gain by destroying this country as you and your liberal shithead peers consistently accuse him of doing? He is out of office in 2009 (That would be about 4 pounds of Prozac away) and then what? He is going to settle down in a destroyed country with his ill gotten gains and live the life of a king who can't afford gas?"

It isn't all about Bush. First of all, Bush is a puppet. Yes, he's a complete moron, but not everyone in his administration is. Some, like Rove, are quite intelligent (but nonetheless evil).

Even after the Demon Administration exits in 2009, the hope of PNAC and neocons is to hold onto power. They'll try getting another puppet in there. I thought this was all obvious.

"As for your clearly stated hatred for conservatives and neo-conservatives- I would expect a person in a depressed state of mind such as you to spew forth such excrement, Turd, but really- you hate Americans who disagree with you? You hate PEOPLE you don't even know? Are you mentally incapable of separating an individual from his actions? I don't hate you but I dislike your attitude and your one track 'I hate all tings not liberal' mind."

You don't know me to be making any assessment of my state of mind. I'm not "depressed", I'm concerned about this country, and pissed off about the fact that it's swirling around the toilet.

Conservatives? Of course I don't literally and automatically hate every one of them, any more than I hate every religious person, though I do hate all religions. I hate conservativism. And regarding any individual who would rather send money to war profiteers than to starving kids ... yeah, I do hate them. Does that help you figure out what I mean?

As far as separating people from their actions, well... It's ironic to hear that kind of talk from an admitted racist such as yourself. The same person who uses ad hominem attacks exclusively, and feels compelled to write at length to anyone who dares challenge him in any way. Yeah ... You don't hate people, you just act in overtly hateful ways. That makes sense! How does it feel to be vengeful, hateful, hypocritical, and stupid all at once?

I challenge you to post a single response--to anyone--that isn't hateful. I've never seen you do it. And you call ME depressed and hateful?
11 years ago
Let's look at some monkeyfuck comments, shall we?

"Why do I hate dumb asses? Because their existence is a threat to mine. A dumb ass that drives drunk endagers me and my loved ones. People throwing rocks at cars? They are endangering me and my loved ones. People bombing my country? They are endangering me and my loved ones."

"I hate stupid people regardless of race. I hate their actions and I hate the fact that this country has DEvolved to the point that we allow these asswipes to spawn their retarded young back into the gene pool to make new Jerry Springer episodes. As long as there are stupid people doing stupid things, I will hate. As long as there are people acting in manners that endanger my loved ones, I will hate. As long as there are people who are just plain STUPID, I will hate."

Witness the hypocrisy. If I say that I hate Bush supporters because they are sending this country down the toilet, well hell, I'm being irrational! But if I simply call them "stupid people", it's A-OK.

Hey, monkeyfuck, guess what? I also hate people who endanger me and my loved ones. Sometimes, I call them "stupid people". And sometimes, even though it is admittedly a wide-sweeping generalization used for convenience (yes, laziness on my part), I simply call them "conservatives".

Deal with it.
11 years ago
Hell, I can't believe I'm doing this, but I'll actually take the time to explain myself further to monkeyfuck. I wasn't going to unpack it this much, but why not... He seems to need help...

Our angry buddy monkeyfuck said:

"I don't hate 'blacks' I hate the behavior of niggers. I don't hate Mexicans, I hate the behavior of wet backs."

I don't do anything different. To you, "nigger" is a pejorative term. You (being a racially-sensitive individual) assign it to people of color who do things you don't approve of. Then, a black person, assuming you are using "nigger" as a blanket term, will kick your ass for it. To this, you reply, with even more anger, "Don't you know enough to separate black people from niggers? You're not ALL niggers--just the BAD ones!"

To me, "conservative" is a pejorative term. You call yourself a conservative, so you don't like people condemning them all. Understandable. But my use of the term might not agree with yours.

To me, someone who thinks that there is a set of civil rights for one group of people (heterosexuals), and a different, more-limited set for another (homosexuals), typifies a conservative. (I'm not saying that that alone defines them... Don't get ahead of me.) Someone who whines over their cheap American beer about poor people abusing food stamps, but who waves the flag while Haliburton sweeps in billions of uncontested contracts, or who loves seeing billions go to ExxonMobil, typifies a conservative. A person who bitches about the money they pay in taxes, as if they earned their money in a vacuum, typifies a conservative. To me, a person who is gleeful that churches are getting federal funds, but can still discriminate against those in their employ based on their religious leanings, is a conservative.

So, using the simplest words I can, when I say I hate "conservatives", I am saying that I hate the people who act as I've mentioned above. If someone calls themself a conservative but behaves differently, that's a whole other story.

Your "nigger" is my "conservative".

But I won't commit category errors in the future where it concerns President Hitler. I understand that many in his base have abandoned him, as shown by his abysmal 34% approval rating. Many conservatives are fleeing the sinking ship. Sure, they're happy that those damned queers still can't get married, and all the current food-assistance budget cuts gave them multiple orgasms, but still...

From now on, when I refer to people who stand by Bushitler, no matter what, I won't use the term "conservatives". I'll use appropriate terms such as "American Nazis", "Fascists", or plain old "Fucking Morons".

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Anyway... I still love the total absence of any arguments in favor of the Bushitler administration. I see many childish ad hominem attacks, but no substance. No argument. That's because there is none to be made.
11 years ago


Yeah.. but they had some good shit, man.


Seriously though, sure it was in the 80's. Imagine what they can do now. Scary.
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those were the days
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